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Fat people are stupid apparently.

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mytwopenceworth · 23/04/2007 14:01

did anyone read that bit in the express about the business man who won't hire fat people because he says they are unintelligent and just smoke fags, drink beer and eat pies all day?

how can people think it's ok to be so hateful and discriminatory.

i hope he gets leprosy and his watnot falls off.

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WigWamBam · 23/04/2007 14:17

UtterPigsty, I go out hillwalking almost every weekend with dh and dd. I'm not the fastest, I'm not the fittest, but I'm not inactive. I'm very fat.

My friend is a size 22 and an aerobics instructor - she ran the Marathon yesterday.

Fat doesn't always equal inactive. And it certainly doesn't always equal lazy.

quadrophenia · 23/04/2007 14:17

oh no I am super, super whizzy and am still a bit of a lard, I eat and drink too much though, but am super whizzy to compensate

expatinscotland · 23/04/2007 14:17

Harder to lose weight, but not impossible, quad.

Whereas, if you're non-white, it's impossible to change that.

Ditto if you are gay.

Or if you are female - and not suffering from transgender dysmorphia.

beansprout · 23/04/2007 14:17

Piglit - How could you!!!

UtterPigsty · 23/04/2007 14:17

Yes but to burn fat you have to walk fast non? Sweaty etc. Not just walk.

Smurfgirl · 23/04/2007 14:18

Mr Bannatyne's daughters are not the slimmest things themselves tbh - he is talking out of his arse.

piglit · 23/04/2007 14:18

You are right Beansprout - I couldn't!! Ok, I'll have Bannatyne.

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mytwopenceworth · 23/04/2007 14:19

expat - i disagree. i think it is not acceptable to discriminate against anyone, based on nothing more than you don't like the wy they look.

if you don't get a job that you were qualified to do and capable of doing because the boss didn't like the way you look. that is wrong.

i am not saying we need specifically FatAntiD laws, but a rethink and the message that no form of discrimination or unequal treatment is ok.

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quadrophenia · 23/04/2007 14:19

no you are right its not impossible, its blardy hard though, specially when you have a fat gp who thinks that pressure to lose weight is all a bit of a conspiracy

expatinscotland · 23/04/2007 14:19

He has lots of daughters, but both his first and second marriages.

UtterPigsty · 23/04/2007 14:19

so you think "i am very fat, hmm that extra cake - no thankyou".
i think the way peopel seem to present themselves as powerless against the power of chomping is disingenuous.

beansprout · 23/04/2007 14:20

Aha, Piglit, come over to the dark side.....

piglit · 23/04/2007 14:21

I'll get my coat...

Cod - your typing accuracy seems to be waining with every post.

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mytwopenceworth · 23/04/2007 14:21

you have not replied Utter - what do you think of his comment that if you are fat you are stupid. lack brains. are thick. simple. dim. moronic.

that is what is offensive!

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expatinscotland · 23/04/2007 14:21

'if you don't get a job that you were qualified to do and capable of doing because the boss didn't like the way you look. that is wrong. '

That happens ALL the time! And it has nothing to do with weight often enough.

I've been on hiring committees where the boss didn't hire someone because he looked like her ex.

There were other candidates who were qualified, but when the decision had to be made that's how it went.

How about if the person shows up to the interview and they're not wearing what is considered appropriate dress?

Or they are ungroomed?

Etc., etc.

UtterPigsty · 23/04/2007 14:21

pig
am undercover

shh

UtterPigsty · 23/04/2007 14:21

well I obv don't agree with that.

piglit · 23/04/2007 14:22

Sorry. Are you a secret agent?

expatinscotland · 23/04/2007 14:22

I used to smoke.

It's very likely that when I went into interviews and perhaps there was the whiff of fag around me and so I didn't get hired.

I don't need to anti-d laws for that.

I needed to stop smoking.

At least around interview time .

DominiConnor · 23/04/2007 14:23

I think reading the Express is a far better predictor of lower IQ than body weight.
As it happens the evidence is quite the other way. The brain is a very expensive organ to run (about 20-25% of your energy budget), and is the only one that will float, because of it's large fat content. (No I didn't carry out that experiment personally

We know for a fact that lower levels of energy intake causes the body to economise on brain development. It's not a coincidence that smarter animals are far more likely to be those that have meat as part of their normal diet.
Sheep are interesting (yes, really), since they are quite noticeably more intelligent when young and milk fed, but when they take on the low energy adult diet of grass, intelligence drops so hard that sheep are a metaphor for stupidity. The two most common household pets are carnivores, since herbivores are a lot harder to "explain" things to.

colditz · 23/04/2007 14:24

I know someone who hired all blondes - and she was a straight female! She reckoned they looked betetr in the uniform because of the colour of it. Plus they pulled the big (male)drinkers in.

She was right.

piglit · 23/04/2007 14:24

Good point expat. My colleague and I were interviewing for a secretary a few years ago and my colleague vetoed the best candidate because she looked like her dh's ex.

Mhamai · 23/04/2007 14:25

Domini, will you write my uni essay's so I can MN?

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mytwopenceworth · 23/04/2007 16:19

"That happens ALL the time!"

but it doesn't make it right. if someone smokes, doesn't wear what is considered the right clothes, is fat, doesn't do their hair nicely, and so on and so forth, it still - none of it - gives anyone else the right to be, well, just plain 'orrible!!!!!

it is about getting to a point, as a society, where we do not judge each other on such shallow things. i just don't understand why people don't get that and just keep saying loose weight/stop smoking/have a bath.......it is about respect, courtesy and not being shallow shallow shallow shallow mean mean mean

need coffee. back later.

not to this thread though, i'd only be repeating myself!!

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expatinscotland · 23/04/2007 16:27

I can't say I agree, MTPW.

Because many businesses exist to sell something - a product or a service.

They hire employees to represent them and attract customers.

When I buy a service, I prefer a person to be dressed appropriately and/or practice proper hygeine.

I don't want to go to a dentist with black teeth and smelly breath, or have a doctor who reeks of BO and fag smoke lecturing me on how to look after my health and examining me or my children.

I wouldn't hire a personal trainer who's obese.

So I guess I'm shallow then.

But IMO respect and courtesy is a two-way street. And it starts with yourself.

If you don't take care of yourself, well, then, it goes to follow this image that you present will be what potential employers see about you, and if you can't take care of yourself even, then how are you supposed to take care of your employer's interest (which is what they're hiring you for)?

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