Levi Bellfield/ Lin and Megan Russell

[Snap8TheCat]

Just seen that there’s new evidence linking him to the murders, I remember being on a thread around the time of the documentary on the murders and links being mentioned then.

Is the new evidence just the witness or anything else do we know?

Wasn’t**

Didn't they rule him out of Billie-Jo's case? It was a tent peg found at the scene that was used, I think. That's quite different from Bellfield, who takes his own hammer Grim, but that's what he does.

So basically if the murders were allegedly committed by Levi Bellfield & he had been quickly found out, arrested, tried, found guilty & jailed then
Milly Dowler
Marsha McDonnell
Amelie Delagrange
would or could possibly still be here & living their lives.

Allegedly.

@battleax you are probably right.

Yes, Tracy

& there is a contemporary witness who saw him there but her testimony wasn't used?

I have a feeling he had an alibi for that day anyway, but can't quite remember.

There was a MNer who had her car clamped by Levi Bellfield. She said he was an absolute bastard.

Do we know if he has a particular motivation for killing?

Snap

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/36115/He-loathed-women-especially-blondes

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-41652456

Interest article.. apparently Bellfield’s ex partner has given him an alibi for the Russell murders (remembered as it was her birthday)

A particular motive? Other than that he enjoyed murdering women you mean?

Well it’s women but some are children albeit girls. Doesn’t appear to be sexually motivated or people he knew, groomed, had a reason to hate. Nor was it drugs or robbery related. Hating all women especially blondes is certainly a particular reason, if a vague one.

It was just a question.

Harrybiscuit - yes, you're right. It's somewhere in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/2264465-To-ask-what-is-the-strangest-creepiest-thing-that-has-ever-happened-to-you

@Blodplod . I’ve reread my post and cannot see why you think I was belittling anybody or being “petty”.

I was merely pointing out that all the info referred to was also in a documentary I’d watched!

Here we go:

@lizzie - apologies. I read it wrong. I can’t really explain how.

Blod no worries

That's it BSintolerant, thanks for finding.

Ugh, I heard this on the radio yesterday. Utterly appalling if it's true, both in terms of the lives which could have been saved and the thought that an innocent man has spent two decades in prison. I remember when the Guildford Four were released when I was about six - it shocked me to the core, that idea that the justice system could get it wrong and people could waste away their lives in prison for something they didn't do. It doesn't feel any less shocking now, even with an adult understanding of the limitations of the system.

This case has always haunted me because I live quite close to the murder scene. I strongly believe that whoever did it must have been local or have known the area extremely well and it was highly unlikely to have been a chance encounter. The site of the murders is literally in the middle of nowhere. The place they were found is not visible from the road and although you can drive a car along the path in summer when the ground is dry, unless you were local or had walked that path previously you wouldn't realise that as there is no indication that you can from the road. For context, this footpath is so remote and little used that despite the families bodies being left partially visible at around 4.30pm on a warm summer evening no one found them until the Police searched after dark. The person who retold Levi Bellfield's supposed confession says that he claimed that he came across them walking home by chance whilst driving through but they would not have been visible from a car on the road. From what has been reported of Levi Bellfield's mode of attack, he was very much an opportunist and I know it is hard to explain but this footpath is not the sort of place an opportunist murderer would hang around on the off chance to catch their next victim. You would be far more likely to bump into a burly farmer than a lone female for a start if anyone at all. Now of course that doesn't mean Stone did it but I also think, based on the modus operandi of the crimes he has been convicted of, it's also unlikely Levi Bellfield did.

It's always haunted me too

In fact it's a case I think of a lot when out running alone in rural locations. I looked on google maps. It's such an out of the way location

What would Bellfield be there for?

This murder conviction has already gone to the Court of Appeal once before and they agreed it was safe. With new information I do think it needs revisiting and the lack of forensic evidence is a concern. I also agree with Stone’s advocates that a different police force should reopen the investigation. Once this has been done a decision on how to proceed can be made with hopefully all evidence out in the open before a new investigating force.

he claimed that he came across them walking home by chance whilst driving through but they would not have been visible from a car on the road

Josie said she saw a beige Ford. Where did she see it? He could have driven past them near the footpath, seen where they went & followed them in?

Billie-Jo Jenkins was killed by a similar method and if I recall the conviction made for that murder was also shaky- I wonder if anyone will look at that again?

That case remains unsolved after Sion Jenkins, her adoptive father, was acquitted after the jury failed to reach a verdict in two retrials. The most likely killer in that case appears to be a local man known to have psychiatric issues who was seen acting suspiciously by a number of people that day. The fact that part of a black bin liner had been forcefully rammed into her nasal cavity is a clear link to this man's known behaviour. However, the police discounted him from their investigation for unknown reasons.

What would Bellfield be there for?

One of his (many) partners said that at that time he regularly went to Kent to deal drugs