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St Petersberg Underground explosion

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RortyCrankle · 03/04/2017 15:10

10 dead, 50 injured. Putin is meeting in St Petersberg meeting Belarusian President. It's not known if connected or a terorist attack.

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RortyCrankle · 03/04/2017 15:11

I should have written Metro, not underground to make it clearer.

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Noofly · 03/04/2017 15:34

It's awful. Sad We'll be there in two weeks time. We're meeting up with a St Petersburg greeter and I was disproportionately relieved to hear that she and her friends and family are all OK.

RortyCrankle · 03/04/2017 16:25

I'm so pleased that they are ok. Still no news of those responsible. I suspect he/they are among the dead unfortunately. Justice would have been better served handing him/them over to the Russian Secret Service.

I think if this is ISIS related they are in for a retaliation from Russia that will be pretty violent.

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PausingFlatly · 04/04/2017 14:15

You've missed a huge part of geopolitical politics there, Rorty.

There have been terrorist attacks in Russia for more than a decade due to Russia's military involvement in Chechnya - which dates to at least the Soviet era but got particularly nasty from 1994 during the Chechan War, in which there was some very, very bad shit.

This is a territorial conflict; it isn't caused by Islamism. (See also Russia's threats to Finland and the Baltic, and invasion of Ukraine.)

IIUC, it's actually the other way round. The horrendous conflict in a largely Muslim country, ignored by much of the outside world, has driven the Islamist narrative that people should combine and organise internationally as Muslims to protect Muslims.

The rather long-winded point being, that it's not the case that "take out Daesh (ISIS), and everything's fixed". If Daesh do turn out to be involved, it's a manifestation of a pre-existing problem.

And of course it can become circular and self-sustaining which is just lovely for everyone.

Meanwhile, back in St Petersburg... Noofly, I'm so glad your friends are OK. Hope your trip goes safely.

RortyCrankle · 05/04/2017 10:53

I'm fully aware of Russian politics, having a Russian friend with whom I often discuss current and historical events.

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