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The Paper that is the sunday papers... style section.

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yellowpoo · 28/01/2007 14:53

Has anybody read this waste of space publication today?

Where all mothers are chavs, fat or yummy mummies?

Great to be stuck in a narrow old compartment hey?

Take your choice, which are you.

Has this guy ever left his tiny London enclave?

I doubt it.(angry)

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saadia · 28/01/2007 14:56

Was that the article by Nirpal Dhaliwal? I saw it and ignored it as I've never found anything he's had to say the slightest bit interesting. Was also appalled that his ex-wife/girlfriend (who knows)Liz Jones went on and on endlessly in various magazines about their relationship.

Hulababy · 28/01/2007 15:06

Saw this - thought it was a really odd article. Just a bit of a whinge on mothers from his side really, adnd no substacnce to it. Not even sure what he real point was.

WigWamBam · 28/01/2007 15:09

The article is here if anyone's interested.

Narrow-minded, blinkered journalism.

ruty · 28/01/2007 15:30

what a twat.

ruty · 28/01/2007 15:31

and he talks about selfish people breeding when the world is over populated, didn't mind being a parasite and living off Liz Jones' earnings while it lasted, did he?

Oati · 28/01/2007 16:05

I can't believe that he is actually paid to write such rubbish

Judy1234 · 28/01/2007 16:06

He says yummy mummiews out and about in the day (i.e. presumably who don't work) are evidence of female emancipation? What planet is he on? Non working wives who are trophiees for husbands like that are just like any other subjugated woman, a financial leech, economically dependent whose only purpose is to use his phrase as brood mare and of course to please her husband and thus keep the husband keeping her.

I don't see how he can criticise stay at home mothers who had the sense to marry someone who is able to keep them in that style rather than someone whose low income means their life is may be not so easy. He's almost saying you're only a good mother if you suffer for it - a very putting down women sort of point.

SnafuOutOfHiding · 28/01/2007 16:06

Oh, he's just showing off. Ignore him.

Pinotmum · 28/01/2007 16:13

Maybe he hasn't got his leg over for a while - sounds a bit frustrated

Booboobedoo · 28/01/2007 16:13

I like this bit:

'Sometimes they catch me looking, and at these moments, they always assume that I?m a broody young man, smitten by the sight of mothers with children and aching for babies of my own. They smile at me and coo over their children, pleased by the thought that someone is looking on admiringly. They have no idea that I see straight through them.'

The way he assumes he know what they're thinking. It's a bit delusional and self-obssessed.

I'd be thinking: 'why is that freak staring at me? He's clearly not at work: maybe he's Care in the Community. I'll smile at him so that he doesn't get enraged and start frothing'.

Pinotmum · 28/01/2007 16:21

God he sounds like a potential serial killer

Judy1234 · 28/01/2007 16:32

He's trying to make a living writing and he's known for a certain take/style so he has to keep with that as that's what they pay him for, that's all and probably jealous of women. One thing he can never do is give birth.

Coolmama · 28/01/2007 16:44

This is the part that really pissed me off the most! He really is a misguided, egotistical, self-worth-inflated narcissistic, ignorant and self-opinionated cretin.

"If a woman loves her children, that trauma will be written on her face. But yummy mummies have outsourced love to their au pairs and to the staff who run the tennis clubs to which they send their children at weekends. They bear none of the battle scars of those who have genuinely raised a family.

Fat, dishevelled and exhausted mums are the ones that matter. They?re the ones who clearly carry the worries of the world on their shoulders. The heaviest burden the yummy mummy has ever borne is the latest Prada handbag. "

gingermonkey · 28/01/2007 17:09

coolmama, I agree. I have no nanny or au pair or general slave to rear my 2 dc but I don't look ravaged by the experience of motherhood. I think I mostly look rather nice (not early in the morning but definately after a shower and a bit of slap) I am neither chav nor yummy mummy. That man is so damn annoying, he only made a name for himself after his silly wife wrote that diary in the guardian and then he had about 500 affairs in the first year of their marriage. I'd run him down with my buggy if I ever saw him in the street. He makes the use of the C word acceptable!!!!

Twiglett · 28/01/2007 17:16

but xenia .. commenting about "Non working wives who are trophiees for husbands like that are just like any other subjugated woman, a financial leech, economically dependent whose only purpose is to use his phrase as brood mare and of course to please her husband and thus keep the husband keeping her. " is that not agreeing with this viewpoint

I understood that you were quite happy with the concept of a mother raising her own children as long as they were not at school yet .. or did I get that wrong? If I'm right then aren't these the very women he paints such a distorted picture of .. the women who are probably just out of a post-natal or toddler group and have decided to go for a coffee

I've never met any of these stereotypes .. maybe I don't go to enough Yummy Mummy places .. maybe I'm just too grotesquely dishevelled to be acknowledged..

TheArmadillo · 28/01/2007 17:18

he's an arse who talks shit.
I wonder if he reads that child-free blog - who spouts similar shite to them.

Either that or he's really clever and has done a brilliant piece to expose the flaws in that kinda thinking and is waiting for the debate to open up...but somehow I kinda doubt it.

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yellowpoo · 28/01/2007 21:09

Thank you.
I'm just glad I'm not alone in thinking that there are far better uses for printed paper, than this predictably tiresome journalist's narrow, misguided and dull point of view.

Amazing to think you can make money from this kind of material.

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yellowpoo · 28/01/2007 21:09

Thank you.
I'm just glad I'm not alone in thinking that there are far better uses for printed paper, than this predictably tiresome journalist's narrow, misguided and dull point of view.

Amazing to think you can make money from this kind of material.

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controlfreaky2 · 28/01/2007 21:26

he is an utter twat... and isnt that deluded woman liz jones STILL with him??
do hope that in rl they are as happy as anything and just write complete and uter tosh to make money and have a laugh at other people's expense.... any other explanation is too grim to think about.

paulaplumpbottom · 28/01/2007 22:07

When I read that this morning over my coffee and croissant I ripped those two pages out and flushed them down the toilet where they belonged. What a weasel and I completely agree with the staring thing. Hello! Thats not what goes through women's minds when some strange man is staring at you and your child.

UnquietDad · 29/01/2007 00:01

Dhaliwal is an arse.

Read more of his musings here if you doubt it .

He just wants to publicise his shabby little book. Don't lose any sleep over him.

Hallgerda · 29/01/2007 08:47

And don't risk an expensive toilet-unblocking plumbing job over him either, paulaplumpbottom.

hellywobs · 29/01/2007 09:19

Well I thought it was quite amusing. A change to see the non-working mum being a target for aa change instead of the evil wicked working mum who dares to earn a living to keep a roof over her head.

There are lots of parents who see their kids as a status symbol.

paulaplumpbottom · 29/01/2007 09:33

Once wet they flush fine.

UnquietDad · 29/01/2007 09:37

It sounds as if he has a lot of spleen to vent.

Liz Jones is equally smackable. They were made for each other.