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Shots fired in Munich shopping centre

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Abraiid2 · 22/07/2016 17:52

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-36870986

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FruitCider · 22/07/2016 21:57

Yeah of course I'm very upset by any mass killings.

By definition a terrorist attack is a mass killing. It's not a term just reserved for Muslims (although it appears to be these days!) I can have respect for those who have died in Munich whilst questioning why the world only cares about white victims of terrorists attacks. We cried for Paris and nice and Munich. What about Aleppo, Baghdad, and too many other places to mention?

FruitCider · 22/07/2016 22:00

There were 5 terrorist attacks in July 2006.

There were 19 terrorist attacks in the whole of 1996.

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 22/07/2016 22:04

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FruitCider · 22/07/2016 22:11

Sorry but I really disagree. I think this is the perfect time to highlight what is happening around the world. Most people are not even aware due to Eurocentric reporting by the media. Of course I worry for the people of Munich as much as the next person. Caring about other victims doesn't mean that I care about the people of munich less...

PacificDogwod · 22/07/2016 22:19

Interesting numbers, thanks, FruitCider.
What is your source? Genuinely interested Thanks.

I agree that reporting is Eurocentric. In Europe.
And I bet it's Chinese-centric. In China.
And I know for a fact it's US-centric in the US Grin

But I get what you mean, bias is very much in one direction, and one direction only.

However this thread IMO is more a 'breaking news' type of thing and not an analysis of what's going on world-wide.

Wrt to 'terrorist' attack, I disagree with your definition. It's not simply about the number of victims, it's about the attacker/s making some kind of violent and misguided political point.
The left-extremist RAF in Germany in the 70s had several individual victims; plenty of mass killings in history that were not political.

MajesticWhine · 22/07/2016 22:20

Oh FFS. Feel free to post a new thread about any situation you care about. Massive sympathies to all those in Munich.

allthemadmen · 22/07/2016 22:21

Yeah of course I'm very upset by any mass killings.

^^ No I mean north Korea is probably the most frightening killing machine on the planet right now and has been for some time, and yet its out of sight out of mind isn't it?

Then Zimbabwe, a country slowly dying, strangled, starving, again out of sight out of mind...how many more, how many can we express sorrow for at one point.

Are the people of Pakistan weeping for Germany right now?

allthemadmen · 22/07/2016 22:22

I see Fruit then I think the county of North Korea deserves your sympathy too its the most frightening place on this earth.

FruitCider · 22/07/2016 22:24

Are the people of Pakistan weeping for Germany right now?

Not sure, I've had a couple of refugees from Afghanistan, Eritria and Syria post condolences on Facebook though.

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allthemadmen · 22/07/2016 22:27

More people will be dying in NK right now, than have been killed in Germany.

PacificDogwod · 22/07/2016 22:27

9 dead - last fatality may have been 'involved' in the attack.

I love Munich, not been recently, but it is beautiful.
As is Uganda where horrific incidents happen on a regular basis, but I don't see how that is relevant to the evolving situation in Munich.

allthemadmen · 22/07/2016 22:28

I hope they are expressing sorrow not just for those in Germany I hope Germany is merely included in the long list of atrocities agaisnt the peoples of the world right now, Fruit.

Rainbunny · 22/07/2016 23:35

Come on, you know that this is how humans process information and emotions "One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." We aren't able to process sorrow on the same deep level for all tragedies everywhere, it's too much for humans to process. If we did feel such intense levels of empathy all the time we would all be mentally distressed to the point that we couldn't function.

Why are we upset about Germany but less so about North Korea? Setting aside the point that the media covers events in Europe and mostly can't cover events in North Korea. Consider this simple analogy, if a house down the street from us is broken into and the occupants badly beaten, we will feel shock and sympathy to a much larger degree than if we read about a house break-in in a city hundreds of mile away. To all intents and purposes Germany is just down the street from us so we will naturally feel more intensely what is happening there. We can naturally feel empathy because of the "sameness" we share with Germany, the same type of society and problems. We fear that what is happening there could happen here. What happens in North Korea feels very foreign to us, they live in a very different society and when terrible things happen there we don't worry that such events can happen here. This is not a conscious decision to be heartless, it is simply the way humans have evolved to process tragic information when it happens on a large scale.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 23/07/2016 01:58

Utterley terrifying. Love thoughts and sympathy to all involved.
RIP to all those who lost their lives.
God bless all

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