Turkey set to invade Syria?

[riverwalk]

According to Russia, signs point to Turkey about to invade Syria. This war could escalate very quickly. If Turkey does invade it must surely be with the backing of NATO. Therefore a confrontation between Russia and NATO very very likely. I just wish things would calm down, it's very scary.

Re the Saudis entering, I thought they had. Haven't they just sent troops in to a bar in Turkey?

Also, we have just sent some nato ships into the aegean, what's the agenda behind that?

'I would never picture Trump getting along with Putin but i don't doubt what you say. You seem to knowlegable on the topic. '

Putin praised Trump and called him "brilliant" and Trump loved it and compliemented Putin. trump is the only US politician to dare think outside the box and say "wouldn't it be great if we could get along with Russia?" which is why lots of factions are dead set against Trump. I am a Trump fan and have been trying to understand what is going on in Ukraine and Syria because I want there not to be a world war to save the bankers and warmongers.

'Nato don't really have a mandate to get into a war with Russia over Ukraine. They were rather powerless to do anything about Crimea. As the excellent tv programme the other night explained, if Latvia or Estonia got invaded then it would all kick off.'

Yes because Obama did not want to escalate things although he took a lot of flak from McCain and the War Party. The Russians have called the BBC programme part of an attempt to worsen relations with Russia and portray them as a danger etc.

'Re the Saudis entering, I thought they had. Haven't they just sent troops in to a bar in Turkey?'

I hadn't heard about that. I saw a headline that they might send some planes to Turkey. just heard it now on Fox News that Saudi Arabia are sending troops to Turkey. You are right, it is getting closer.

'Also, we have just sent some nato ships into the aegean, what's the agenda behind that?'

Very good question. I don't know. We are told it is to patrol for refugees in boats heading to Europe, but why you need warships for that, who knows?

Oops, just spotted my typo - Saudi sent troops to a base in Turkey, not a bar!

Thats probably the funniest typo i have seen for a while Anna lol

Perhaps sending them into a bar would be a step in the right direction!

What I can't fathom is who actually wants a world war. These key players are all parents, what sort of world do they want? What's the end game here? I just can't understand what is so fucking important that's is worth risking everything for.

anna i dont get it either - putin scares me soo much, did you see that program on his illegal grabbing of russias wealth, he is a dicator. scary, but why? I dont get it...

'What I can't fathom is who actually wants a world war.'

Certain billionaire elites. The banks are in big trouble. If countries come off the dollar i.e. the BRICS countries try it, then it will cause financial panic and have all sorts of social consequences as the people are left in financial distress. The elites are worried about how they can contain the people. They have to rescue the system and one option is war to act as a dstraction, to impose austerity and cohesion and to wipe out debts ane xploit resources from the defeated countries if they win the war. It is about power and maintaining power.

'I just can't understand what is so fucking important that's is worth risking everything for.'

The potential end of the elite's system and popular uprisings if the people end up destitute which will lead to the end of the elite.

That is why the US election is so important. Trump is against more war, he wants to get on with Putin and not have a war and rebuild America, and the globalists and elite don't want that.

I'll plead total ignorance on the Us elections. However, lots of sources I've read seem to consider trump a real threat to world peace. Why is he so unpopular if he is the only one willing to engage with putin?

So many questions...

'Why is he so unpopular if he is the only one willing to engage with putin? '

Because the elites don't want to engage with Putin. They paint him as a big threat and make TV programmes about the threat he poses to WWIII. Trump wants peace and wants to get on with him so that he can rebuild America. Trump said "wouldn't it be great if we could get along with Russia?"

That is not what they want to hear. Putin is the bogeyman.

'I've read seem to consider trump a real threat to world peace'

Very few of the press have called Trump "a threat to world peace" because he said he was against the Iraq War and that he wants to get on with Putin so the press has a hard time painting Trump as a warmonger. Instead they say that Trump is "racist and sexist" hoping that that will fool the voters not to vote for him.

Trump on Putin last night in the knockdown standup debate

"Call me a genius, but I like him"

It was the most brutal Presidential debate in US history last night, political pundits said they had never seen anything like it. Trump took incoming from all sdes (from all the Establishment stooges and warmonger cheerleaders) but Trump hit back. The audience was packed with donors and special interests booing Trump when he spoke. Trump said the Republican National Committee had packed the hall with anti-Trump people.

Trump is the only one who is for getting along with Putin and avoiding more war.

www.ibtimes.com/jeb-bush-fires-back-donald-trump-putin-isis-syria-iraq-war-candidates-exchange-2306663

Well I think if Turkey enters the war it's game over. They wouldn't be going in to get Isis, but to topple Assad, thereby going up against Russia. I can't see any good outcome whatsoever.

So the elitists would be quite happy to have a world war, safe in their bunkers with all their massive wealth intact. But what kind of world would they be coming out to? they'd be nothing. They wouldn't be able to enjoy their wealth, so what's the point.

I was speaking to dh about exactly that riverwalk. Who the hell would want to exist in a post-apocolyptic world? Dh thinks it's all about the elites and population control. Though I have accused him of being a wearer of tin foil hats in the post, now I'm beginning to fear he's been right all along.

Anna I worry so much about this and DH always says what's the point in worrying, it won't change anything. I know that, but I can't help it. I just wish it would all resolve itself peacefully, but I don't see how.

I think there are different factions who want different things. I think the banker faction will lose and not achieve their aims. I don't think there will be a world war, I think instead that Turkey and Saudi Arabia may be tricked and their governments may fall.

Listen to Trump debating Bush in last night's debate in the ibtimes link.

Bush wants to work with Sunnis to topple Assad. I think it will turn out Trump's way instead.

"I am warning Russia once more"

Turkish Prime Minister warns Russia on TV, says their condemnation of the attack in Ankara was not strong enough. He said that if the attacks continue then Russia will be as responsible as the Kurdish group.

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ca5d22ae-d61c-11e5-829b-8564e7528e54.html#axzz40XjcLeXe

Got to subscribe to access that link Claig.

Oh sorry, sometimes they ask you to answer some questions on advertising type surveys and then they let you have free entry. Couldn't find the report anywhere else but the FT.