How on earth has Julian assange been arbitrarily held??

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Surely if you choose to resist arrest in this way then it is your choice?
Glad rhe police continue to say he will be arrested.

I did not know the legal point raised by Lurking

Very few people do. I mentioned this ages ago in a "discussion" at work. Now the topics hot again, everyone has "forgotten" it.

Facts are water and Julian Assange is oil. Just that really. You could extend the metaphor to point out they don't mix, but I think it stands alone .

The JA "argument" is a classic example where [most] people don't care what the truth is - like EU membership, and immigration. Everyone "knows" everything there is, so why bother listening to anyone else.

Oh thank goodness, some sensible responses to this nonsense. Twitter is driving me mad with the calls for compensation and 'the UK and Sweden are setting a bad example to evil countries' . It's all complete, self-serving bullshit on JA's part. I wish no-one had turned up for his press conference rather than feeding his self (and now UN proclaimed) tortured martyr status.

I am so about this.

I listened to you lurking. Promise not to forget it. At any rate it supports my long held views that he's avoiding Sweden just as much as the US 😉

I'm so glad I found this thread. I have been scaring the kids this morning by shouting at the TV news 'he isn't DETAINED!!' and telling the news reporter to 'get a grip'.

It's been exhausting

Twitter is full of people demanding we set him free - what a joke we haven't even got him!

Julian Assange has been unguarded in that embassy for months.

I have said this on here before, he went in to that embassy thinking he would be there for a month at most, the whole world would be in uproar at his terrible plight and he would emerge, the all conquering hero of the world.
What actually happened is he went in, most people either forgot about him or realized he is an odious little show off and then he was stuck there, for years.
I would say MR oh so clever Assange made a pretty stupid decision himself and has had to live with it.

There is a European arrest warrant for him and I believe we have a duty to arrest him?

I could maybe understand all of this hoo ha if he thought he was being sent to Syria or some other terrible country but come on Sweden? Sweden is hardly up there on the lists of countries to avoid at all costs!

Promise not to forget it

Remember Jean Charles de Menezes ? Remember how within seconds of his head becoming puree, "somebody" popped up on the "news" to tell us (a) he had a bulk jacket (he didn't) and (b) he vaulted the barriers (he didn't).

I have lost count of the number of people I have "discussed" this with who know he had a bulky jacket and vaulted the barrier, even as they are discussing news stories which state (a) he had no jacket and (b) he did not vault the barrier.

People tend to believe what they want to believe first and then (and only then) the truth. Remember (obligatory Stewart Lee clip) :

You can prove anything with facts.

Thanks Lurking, my post was meant to be 'tongue in cheek' (hence the winking smiley) clearly didn't come across that way...

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/05/un-julian-assange-wikileaks

According to the above link in the Guardian the Judges unbelievably got the wrong end of the stick and thought the Uk authorities were detaining him in the embassy. The Ukrainian Judge (who was against the judegement) tried to put the others straight to no avail it would seem.

It has been a truly sh*y start to 2016 for women (and their rights)

According to the above link in the Guardian the Judges unbelievably got the wrong end of the stick

So most of the UK public are qualified enough to be UN judges ? Might get a few people off the dole ?

Also doesn't do much for the credibility of the UN.

Also doesn't do much for the credibility of the UN

I hear they are being rebranded as "League of Nations".

Who are the members of this panel?

I've tried searching the UN website, but it's utterly impenetrable.

What I don't understand is why the Swedish authorities won't give the assurance that they will not comply with any extradition request? If they did just that, it would be interesting to see what JA does then...

I don't think the Swedish authorities can give that assurance. What with their courts being free of governmental direction.

If the US launched an action for his extradition, the Swedes would have to action in in accordance with their law and their international treaty obligations.

Found them!

If anyone else is interested, a list with a mini-biog of each is here

Did anyone see him speaking just now on the news? Someone shouted out something and his response was "Can someone close that person down?" He can't cope with being challenged.

I am so pissed off about this. That man is an odious, supercilious, egotistical twat with absolutely nothing to have an ego about! It amazes me that people support him - seriously - why???!!!! Is it a general hatred of America and therefore anyone who does anything against the establishment in the US (no matter whether they are right or wrong in what they do and how they go about it, and no matter the consequences of what they do - case in point Edward Snowden) they must be lauded as a hero?!?! I am genuinely stunned that the UN has come to this conclusion (well, 3 out of a group of 5 of them anyway) - it literally makes no sense! I am scrolling past the bbc news articles about it today because I cannot read another word about him or look at his face for another second.

Rant over - and breathe

A lot of people asking questions that were answered in the excellent link squeaver gave.

(you see my point about repeating myself ?)

I listen today to the news on radio 4. A journalist was interviewing one of the UN panel. It left me so confused!

Apparently the UN can say he's been unlawfully detained as, when he was firsts arrested, about 5? Years ago, he was put in a cell in the UK and "isolated" for 10 days? What the fuck they mean by that I don't know!
He was then released but placed under "house arrest" for nearly two years, (according to the UN)
Un Britain we call it "bail conditions" so he was told to stay at a particular address ( a mansion of one of his rich and famous friends) and had to report to the police every day and not go out at night (poor little lamb, but his charges were rather serious). Because of the 'cell isolation' and the house arrest, poor Julian has no option but to hide in the embassy because if he comes out he will again be put under House Arrest.

So is that clear to you all? Do you all now understand why he has been illegally held by the UK. no neither do I I thought I was listening to some Orwellian speak.

Excuse typos, I'm on a wobbly train!

Excuse typos, I'm on a wobbly train!

Seems as good a place as any to make sense of this judgement ...

Right. The government are up to no good. Queeny is a lizard. The police are corrupt.
Now I can go and commit whichever crimes I wish because if the powers that be want to arrest me on suspicion of those and I hide they will be in the wrong. Must be correct, cos the UN said so. I'd even get all the rent a gobshites backing me if it becomes trendy enough.

This is brilliant! If you're on bail awaiting trial for rape, just get yourself down to the Ecuadorian embassy, the UN will stick up for you.

Out of interest, what are the UN saying the British Government should do? We can't let him go because we aren't holding him. Cancel the extradition warrant? What?

fakename - I believe we are currently at 'give him lots of money and promise never to say anything mean about him or arrest him for anything ever ever ever'

Or something at that sort of level, anyway.

Exactly what are the government supposed to do to 'comply' with the UN. The police left ages ago didn't they?