Cologne attacks - No Excuses for sexual violence Campaign

[emilybohemia]

I wondered what the response to the Cologne attacks by German feminists has been and discovered that women in Germany have been using the hashtag ausnahmslos.

ausnahmslos.org/

These women condemn the attacks on women on New Year's Eve and they demand that those that attack and rape women must not be protected. They call for action against sexual violence be and state this must be prioritised.

They also assert that sexual violence must not only be addressed if the offender is seen by society as 'other¨, eg. Muslim, Arab, black or North African. They point out that focusing on those seen as 'the other' and "non-German" is only helpful to the spread of the right wing and populism

They state that all victims of sexual violence should be taken seriously, regardess of ethnicity.

The women state that sexual violence must also become a political priority and point to statistics by the European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights (FRA), that more than half of all women have been sexually assaulted and a third sexualized and / or experienced physical violence and the police crime statistics, annually more than 7,300 displayed rape and sexual coercion in Germany OFF3, which are twenty everyday, the number of unreported cases being much higher.

It is interesting that these German are not focusing on one particular race or culture, but focusing on all forms of sexual violence become a priotity and I hope they are effective in bringing this to the attention of German political leaders and police chiefs.

You can search the hastag on twitter if you would like more information or to support if you wish to.

[bluebolt]

How far do we go ignoring cultural aspects, European lawmakers are changing laws to deal with child brides. Legally married in one culture and viewed as a paedophile and a victim of child abuse in another. Do we not discuss this as every society as paedophiles so why single out one culture or do we tackle a culture that it is seen as a norm that as soon as girl reaches puberty she is fair game. I was 10 when I stated my periods according to some sharia laws a legal age to be married.

[SurelyYoureJokingMrFeynman]

bluebolt, the campaign linked to in the OP explicitly states:

6. The discussion on sexualised violence must be led in an open and differentiated way, including the focus on sociocultural and ideological reasons for violence, and the stigmatisation of survivors.

I don't quite understand your post. Are you disagreeing with the campaign and advocating that we ignore cultural aspects?

[bluebolt]

Whilst there are many forms of sexual assault many need direct campaigns to target a solution, an example being date rape and marital rape. Whilst both sexual assaults against women the campaigns would be very different due to the nature of the offence. Placing them in an umbrella of sexual violence will dilute the message that a direct targeted single campaign would give. cologne and other cities has left a cities of women afraid, they need a targeted campaign/ laws to ensure their safety now.

[CalmYoBadSelf]

emily Your last post is disgusting, taking comments made in a robust discussion in isolation and out of context in an attempt to demonise other posters. Is your agenda is to silence free speech? Shame on you

Your post makes this a TAAT. I hope MN will not put up with this

[SonyaAtTheSamovar]

The Swedish authorities seem to act as though facts and data as possibly racist so it seems Emily is ahead of the curve !

[SonyaAtTheSamovar]

That was to BackToTheNorth.

[SonyaAtTheSamovar]

"Facts and data are"

[SonyaAtTheSamovar]

That was the hollowest of all the assertions on this thread Calm.

[SonyaAtTheSamovar]

That should be

The hollowest of all the assertions on the other threads.

[CalmYoBadSelf]

Really Sonya? I think we are all agreed that any sexual violence is abhorrent and should be dealt with and it was stated time after time on the other threads that the only reason race came into it was because of the nature of the attacks in Cologne. Posting quotes from other posters on another thread just because you don't agree with them is very bad form indeed and not a behaviour that will encourage people to post here

If you disagree with somebody's view, explain why and educate them. I have changed my views on lots of things in the years I have been on MN after other posters have told me things I did not know previously. If those posters had gone off onto other threads and bitched about my different stance it would have had no effect other than to put me off posting again and, in the long run, to make MN a poorer place with fewer posters and a narrower range of views

I am concerned about sexual violence against all women of all races and religions but I am also concerned about the right to free speech for all even if we don't agree.

[CalmYoBadSelf]

Sorry Sonya we crossposted, which assertion are we arguing about please?

[emilybohemia]

Calmyo, other posts had already come on to talk about the other thread and the petition there and I responded.

[CalmYoBadSelf]

The posters you quoted hadn't been here though emily which is why I think it was bad form, rather like talking behind somebody's back

[Justanotherlurker]

Justanother,

'So one common factor that is coming out of this is Immigration and culture

Bad form your playing here, but care to say why this is a false statement?

Your seem to go against the majority of the press in Germany/Sweden/Norway and some of the U.K.

If your trying to make yet another false judgement in that I am calling a halt for all immigration or everyone from specific cultures are bad I'm not sure what your point is.

[SonyaAtTheSamovar]

Sorry calm it was a misunderstanding.

I would say I agree with your post on free speech. It was Emily's previous posting assering a belief in free speech I found hollow but it was on the other threads so I bow out suitably chastised!

[SonyaAtTheSamovar]

asserting..

[emilybohemia]

Calmyo, I think it was their intention to get me to do just that.

[EasterRobin]

I don't want this thread deleted. I think the original links and information are very useful, regardless of the OP's behaviour elsewhere. The thread does seem to have gone somewhat awry since then though

[Justanotherlurker]

Care to answer my question though Emily, I wasn't trying to get you to quote me on this or the last thread, considering I only participated on the other thread (No.6) after you misquoted me.