I will stop reading the Guardian now - anyone else like to join me?

[carlajean]

This is a spin off from the previous thread about Cologne. What has made me most angry (and many others, I believe) is the refusal of the Guardian and the BBC to deal with it adequately. I can't change the BBC, but I can, and have, stopped reading the Guardian. Perhaps if enough of is said they would do this it might damage their already poor selling figures, and make them listen to ordinary women.
Would anyone else like to join me in saying this?

I boycotted The Guardian some time ago. It was Owen Jones that finally pushed me over the edge.

I read Private Eye, The Spectator, sometimes the FT and Standpoint magazine. Agree all the papers are equally trashy nowadays. Partly it's downward pressure on sales due to availability of news online, hence less money to pay journos, hence sacking journos, hence deteriorating standards, hence fewer readers etc.

Owen Jones us just dreadful. I cannot understand why he is so popular.

Owen Jones is pretty ghastly, isn't he?

I've never really forgiven Private Eye for their stance on MMR.

Seriously, you can't expect to agree with every slant a newspaper takes. What are you going to read instead? I read the guardian but don't agree with everything by any means. Its just people's points of view. Hopefully most of them I agree with, but not exclusively.?

The Guardian has been my newspaper all my life; I have had the Observer delivered since I moved out of my parents' (a long time ago). TBH the Observer has been going down the pan for years but the past year has been dire. The end of year content was sparse beyond comprehension; I think all the journalists took the fortnight off. But still, I was loyal

The Cologne reporting has been the nail for me. Done with it. Ironically I was considering signing up as a subscriber. Why I'm not sure now, guilt, or something

I'm not in the UK but I know the Telegraph is 'Tory'.
What is the Guardian supposed to be?

Left wing, liberalism, Pinko bleeding heart.. etc etc

I'd have agreed with you until recently Squeegle but several things changed my mind-

• the general attitude of the paper - refusing to even recognise what had happened.
• the labelling in articles of anyone who disagrees with them as racist
• the non-appearance of 'comment is free' for most articles on the subject.
• where they appear, only the rare comments where the poster is in agreement with the journalist are put at the top as 'star letters'

try the FT - so much better

Could somebody link to the article please?

Will try FT next week.

Might be good for my brain.

How is The Times and The Financial Times different then? I thought the FT was just an offshoot with info about the markets etc.

I don't think Murdoch owns the FT.

You have to pay for the FT. I get it free at work and it's ok when I bother to read it. Best to try to get your news from a variety of sources - just not many left when you rule out Murdoch and tabloids.

The NYT is pretty much the American version of the Guardian - they print each other's stories a lot of the time and are part of the same group.

FT isn't Murdoch. Was sold by Pearson (education publishers) a Japanese company last year (Nikkei?)

Swedish- NYT may be same media group, but it's readership ate different, and US style of journalism is v different to UK (though sometimes far too long winded)

Agree about it being long-winded. And, strangely, also lacking in depth sometimes. Although, there was a lovely article about a man found dead in his apartment last year.

I usually buy it on a Saturday - well get it free in Waitrose - but today I thought...no.

I might actually start buying Tge Times which is a Murdoch production but at least doesn't pretend to be anything else.

I would have bought The Telegraph but that has gone to the dogs.

But no Guardian for me. Am fed up with the navel gazing especially the flipping family section.

The FT has nothing to do with The Times, as Tannhauser points out. It is owned by Nikkei, not Murdoch.

I gave up on The Guardian long ago, since their anti-Corbyn campaign.

Supposedly "left" but actually Centrist/Blairite.

Around 2008 the Guardian was taken over by a group of Ex-Banker/PR type Hedge-fund corporates, who's first job was to implement a tax-dodging scheme.

Since then, they have eliminated actual "News" stories, replaced by Click-Bait BS, and wilfully discarded their moral compass.

I recommend Huffington Post and non-mainstream sources.

I'm in too. Really disappointed in them recently.

Yes I agree with you. I thought the cologne reporting was awful and have also deleted the app.