Brendan Rodgers sacked as Liverpool manager

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www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3259661/Brendan-Rodgers-sacked-Liverpool-FC-manager-club-look-new-new-boss-turn-season-around.html

Not that surprising. Liverpool have not been doing too well.

It's 8 games into the season, the season after Gerrard has left. Liverpool seem surprised they're not top of the league. It's not like they even lost yesterday, a 1-1 draw with Everton isn't a bad result. 10th is pretty good at this stage of the season. I can think of 82 other football league clubs who would be happy to be there.

Under Fergie, United often started the season badly. In fact, the years they started well tended to be the seasons they didn't win the league. Starting poorly and coming good in the end was part of many of Fergie's seasons. It's ridiculous for top clubs to be sacking managers at the beginning of October.

Who next, Mourinho? After all, Chelsea have started even worse than Liverpool.

The other thing that annoys me about this story is that they say they'll have a new manager within the week. Which leads me to assume they were going to sack him anyway.

Good points, but I think this has been building up from disappointments from last season and before. I think the management could only see it getting worse and were probably already considering a change with new figures already lined up.

'Who next, Mourinho?'

Could be if he loses the players.

Seems to me that one of the key things in management is to be able to motivate the players and keep everything upbeat. Seems that the personality of a manager is key to this. David Moyes was a disaster at Man Utd in my opinion because his personality is not positive and upbeat enough which makes him too defensive and I think Brendan seems to be similar in that respect.

Liverpool have been having 'disappointing' seasons for a long time now. I am honestly surprised that they seem to have underestimated the effect that Gerrard leaving would have on the whole club. I'm not really a Gerrard fan but IMO he was more than 'just' a captain, and I'm sure the dressing room is a different place without him. Maybe a new manager is the answer to this problem, but maybe not.

Moyes is a bit of a ditherer when it comes to buying players. Which was fine when he was at clubs with little money to spend, you do have to be more careful, but United was different.

Although I think he was screwed either way, if he'd gone in and signed loads of players he would have been criticised. Signing not enough, and he was sacked (amongst other things, but I think that was the beginning of the end).

I agree with you about motivating players. I think one of the issues that many managers have in the Premier league is that these players are on such huge salaries, that they seem to have little respect for the manager, like they are less dispensable than the manager. And they are frequently proved right.

' I am honestly surprised that they seem to have underestimated the effect that Gerrard leaving would have on the whole club. I'm not really a Gerrard fan but IMO he was more than 'just' a captain'

Absolutely, but the impression I got (maybe wrongly) is that Rodgers didn't keep him by offering a long enough contract to him.

'they seem to have little respect for the manager, like they are less dispensable than the manager. And they are frequently proved right.'

Yep, which is why they have to be managed carefully. The way Mourinho subbed the sub Matic on Saturday may backfire on Mourinho. It is OK if he has total control and can warn players but won't work when results are going badly and he is already being criticised.

That's interesting. I'll admit I don't keep a really close eye on the ins and outs of the Premier league (my team are in the Championship, which has it's own issues) but if that's true, then it goes some way to explain why the Liverpool support turned against Rodgers. If Stevie G didn't believe in him, why should they?

I can't see Ancelotti going to Liverpool, Klopp seems the preferred candidate at the moment.

Alex Ferguson did have a very slow start in his early career as MU manager, but I really don't believe you can compare Rodgers and Ferguson. Brendan Rodgers isn't in the same league as a manager.

Rodgers has had a very turbulent private life in his time as Liverpool manager. He left his wife for a much younger woman who worked at the club and his son was on trial for sexual assault. It is no surprise whatsoever he's completely failed to make an impact at Liverpool in these circumstances.

'Klopp seems the preferred candidate at the moment'

Yes, I think he would be a great choice because he is relatively young and dynamic and still has lots to achieve. I hope they give him lots of money to buy new players and build a great team.

I'm not a Liverpool fan, I'm Chelsea through and through. But I want Liverpool to be great once again, a giant of European football, bringing pride and glory back to the people of Liverpool and the whole country.

I wasn't comparing them, I was saying that United under Ferguson often started the season badly, but would still end up winning the league. Anything can happen yet. Sacking a manager after 8 games when you're still in the top half of the league is daft. It's not unique to Liverpool, of course.

But YY, these days, Fergie wouldn't have lasted more than a couple of seasons.

The sacking is not only in response to this season or their current league position, it's been building. It's about the lack of direction. It is becoming increasingly evident that Brodge doesn't have the answers. There was nothing particularly wrong with a draw at Everton, but its the accumulation of last seasons drubbing at Stoke, and this season drawing with Carlisle and Sion, and a 3-0 defeat to West Ham. He just didn't show that he had a clue how to sort it out. And I don't think he knows how to get the best out of his players. Liverpool have a good squad now, maybe not quite top 4 calibre but should be challenging. I am hopeful that a better manager can turn it around.

I agree Ferguson may have been sacked had he been a manager in today's world. Thank goodness he wasn't.

Rodgers has been in charge of Liverpool since June 2012, so he isn't being judged just on the last few games. He isn't the manager Liverpool deserve (and I say that as a Man U fan!!) and i'm pleased for the fans he's gone.

Was nearly sacked in summer so no shock.Interesting to hear how lack of say he had in transfers though.He did well with Swansea and if wasn't for Gerrard slip and Liverpool losing the plot at Palace he'd won them the league.

The problem is that the owners have given Rogers a hell of a lot of money to spend and many of those players have just not bedded in as well as hoped. Lallana is a case in point, and although it's still early days Firmino has looked very lack lustre (and we know he's a great little player).

And there have been arguments over players who Rogers refused to play despite costing the club a fortune eg Markovic.

Whilst this isn't a top 2 contending team, it ought to be beating Norwich and Carlisle.

I suspect Rogers would have been allowed to go on longer had talks with Klopp not moved as fast as they obviously have.