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Global warming rant

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ginmummy · 31/10/2006 10:06

I watched an item on the news last night where a woman (possibly an mn-er?) was being asked what she and her family would be prepared or able to give up to 'do her bit' for global warming, and the interviewer presented her with a carbon 'cheque' that said basically if you give up your car you will be ?250 a year better off, so do you rip up the cheque and keep the car or do you keep the cheque and get rid of the car etc etc. This is something that I have strong views on because it's 'ordinary' conscientious people like you and me who will end up living close to the breadline because the people who make all the important decisions about the world have decided to make us pay more as a punishment for simply existing.

I live in a modest two bedroom mid-townhouse with ds. We don't have central heating, a tumble dryer or a car. Our house is heated by one storage heater in the living room that set on number 2 (out of 5) that's enough to heat the whole house and it's kept warm by double glazing and keeping the doors shut. I prefer to put on a jumper than turn the thermostat up. We don't eat excessively, preferring to eat 'in season' locally sourced fruit and veg, and we very rarely eat take-aways, including McDonalds etc. I use the washing machine economically, we have energy saving lightbulbs in all the lights and I don't leave lights on when it's not necessary nor do I leave the tv on standby overnight or the microwave or my mobile phone charger plugged in when it?s not being used. The electrical items in my house are minimal; tv, video, fridge freezer (A rated), washing machine (B rated), microwave (not sure) and radio alarm clock. DS has never been on a plane and I last went on one in June 2001. We haven't had a foreign holiday together and when we've been away for a week or so it's been in Britain we've doubled up with other people. We have a recycling bin that is used religiously and a non recyclable bin that is usually half full when the bin men come for it every two weeks. I recycle glass, clothes, shoes and garden rubbish in the relevant recycling banks.

The reason I'm twittering on like this is because I do not consider myself to have an excessive lifestyle and I'm conscious of the impact that my carbon footprint is having on the planet, yet I am facing the prospect of rising electricity bills that I will struggle to pay all because of factors that are way beyond my control. I completely agree that something needs to be done now if our children's children are to see the next century, but how is raising the cost of living by higher gas and electricity prices going to achieve it? We will end up with two classes in society; the people who can afford to live an opulent lifestyle and who will continue to waste resources without a care for anything or anyone, and people like you and me who will have to decide between eating and heating our houses.

Rant over.

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expatinscotland · 01/11/2006 10:40

Yeah, but it's all tile in our bathroom. W/my luck, it's shite tile that'll shatter when I drill it and then the landlord will be pissed.

Uwila · 01/11/2006 10:56

But, he'll have a nice new clothes hanging contraption.

I on the other hand could never be persuaded to give up my tumble dryer. I'd sooner walk to work.

expatinscotland · 01/11/2006 11:36

There's nothing like towels dried in the tumble dryer.

Jeans and sheets, too.

Otherwise, they just go like cardboard .

ginmummy · 01/11/2006 22:21

figroll - I suppose it can start from the bottom up so to speak, after all our children are the ones who are going to be faced with regular blackouts and water shortages. It just feels so futile that whatever I do to 'do my bit' is negated and then some by the actions of an entity (person/country) over which I have absolutley no control.

p.s. the over door airer is excellent!

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2ManyPimms · 02/11/2006 11:56

The cynic in me thinks that NOTHING of importance will be done until things start getting seriously out of control and by then - obviously - it is too late.

As a family we are trying to do "our bit" but my heart sinks when thinking of the environmental damage China, India and the US are perpetrating. (I go home and want to VOMIT every time I see a HUGE gas-guzzling 4x4.)

If there were ONE thing I could do for the environment (by waving my magical fairy wand), I'd get rid of "cheap flights". Period. The cost of flying should accurately reflect the damage it is doing to our planet. O.k., I'd only be able to go home once every two or three years but so be it.

I weep for the future, I really do.

Anyone else going to the environmental rally in London this weekend? Dusting my bull-horn off and feeling all green and granola!

figroll · 02/11/2006 15:17

I think it needs to be socially unacceptable to drive 4x4s and cars with very large engines. I have no idea how this would come about, but I too get annoyed by people's cavalier attitude to global warming. Frankly, they don't give a toss.

My next door neighbour (vile creatures that they are) have a range rover with a 5.3 litre engine (it sounds so mad I can hardly believe it) and a big mercedes. All keeping up with the Jones's. (I don't know why they bother really - we have only got an Astra.) Unbridled consumption is going to do us all in. I have friends who fly to Spain for the weekend regularly and another work colleague who goes to Prague or Lisbon, or Venice for the weekend. It can't be right.

At the end of it all though, swapping huge cars for little ones, isn't going to make the biggest difference. It has to come from govt - particularly the US govt. And I truly believe that they don't give a shit.

BellaLasagne · 04/11/2006 14:35

I'm taking this up with my local council as I believe they're the ones not doing enough.

We live in the sticks, so I recycle all our glass and papers, but I have to take them to the recycling centre (in my car!) as there's no recycling collection here. I have nowhere else to recycle plastic bottles or cans so they have to (very reluctantly) go in landfill. I compost my kitchen and garden waste, and have energy efficient lightbulbs. We also have a woodburner and get our wood from locally sustainable sources.

I'm going to have to drive my son 15 miles each way to school from next September as the council won't provide buses that arrive or leave at the right times. The way there are at the moment he'd have to leave home at 0740 and get home at 1800 - not acceptable in my book for an 11 year old!

One woman protest - here I come!

BellaLasagne · 04/11/2006 14:37

P.S. Please don't forget that farmers need 4x4's. All the ones I know only use them locally for farm work and have 'normal' cars for other uses, so are responsible. I can't see why anyone else would need one?

candide · 04/11/2006 15:18

I'm really glad to read that everyone on this thread is doing their bit about global warming. But its also a bit depressing that there are lots of people who feel powerless to change things. We can change things, not just by the things we do but also by the way we use our votes, by educating our children about why "being green" matters, by going to marches etc etc.

Look at all the things that have changed in the past - the end of slavery, women getting the vote, the end of communism.

I know that things look quite bad but countries like China will sit up an listen when the prospect of economic downturn starts to bite.

Extra taxes is just the start. Don't depair!

Yours optimistically

Blondilocks · 04/11/2006 15:29

"Please don't forget that farmers need 4x4's. I can't see why anyone else would need one?"

They are useful for moving out. My ex OH borrowed a 4x4 & picked me & my stuff out when I moved out of my uni house. We did one trip, which would have been more like 3 trips had we used our car. So there are cases when they are very useful. I suppose we could have rented a van instead, but we would have had to do a longer journey to take it back to the rental place etc.

The other problem with compost is rats.

moondog · 04/11/2006 15:45

Ginmummy,one idea I have read about that couldwork is that everyone gets an energy allowance that they are free to use or sell.

It would put a lot more power back into the hands of the poor and/or those whose ecological footprint is small.

BellaLasagne · 04/11/2006 15:47

Yes, but you don't need a 4x4 to move, do you? How about an estate car or a small van?

Farmers need 4x4s to transport sheep, hay, straw etc and navigate muddy fields and otherwise un-drivable lanes etc

expatinscotland · 04/11/2006 15:52

Why aren't they taxing the hell out of businesses, who are the chief polluters?

Rather than people who cannot afford to live anywhere near their work and have to work shite shift work just to eek a living and so need their car just to run their little lives.

Blondilocks · 04/11/2006 17:29

Well if you don't own an estate car or van & know someone who owns a 4x4 (who just so happens to come from a farming family) then that seems to be the more sensible option. I'm sure we wouldn't have fit it all into an estate car - my friend had to do 2 trips with her mum's estate & she had less stuff than me.

I'm sure a 4x4 causes hardly much more pollution than a van or estate anyway.

Blondilocks · 04/11/2006 17:30

I agree it would be pointless to buy a 4x4 just to move house!

Blondilocks · 04/11/2006 17:30

But also I know farmers who manage with a fairly average sized saloon car as their primary vehicle.

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