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Global warming rant

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ginmummy · 31/10/2006 10:06

I watched an item on the news last night where a woman (possibly an mn-er?) was being asked what she and her family would be prepared or able to give up to 'do her bit' for global warming, and the interviewer presented her with a carbon 'cheque' that said basically if you give up your car you will be ?250 a year better off, so do you rip up the cheque and keep the car or do you keep the cheque and get rid of the car etc etc. This is something that I have strong views on because it's 'ordinary' conscientious people like you and me who will end up living close to the breadline because the people who make all the important decisions about the world have decided to make us pay more as a punishment for simply existing.

I live in a modest two bedroom mid-townhouse with ds. We don't have central heating, a tumble dryer or a car. Our house is heated by one storage heater in the living room that set on number 2 (out of 5) that's enough to heat the whole house and it's kept warm by double glazing and keeping the doors shut. I prefer to put on a jumper than turn the thermostat up. We don't eat excessively, preferring to eat 'in season' locally sourced fruit and veg, and we very rarely eat take-aways, including McDonalds etc. I use the washing machine economically, we have energy saving lightbulbs in all the lights and I don't leave lights on when it's not necessary nor do I leave the tv on standby overnight or the microwave or my mobile phone charger plugged in when it?s not being used. The electrical items in my house are minimal; tv, video, fridge freezer (A rated), washing machine (B rated), microwave (not sure) and radio alarm clock. DS has never been on a plane and I last went on one in June 2001. We haven't had a foreign holiday together and when we've been away for a week or so it's been in Britain we've doubled up with other people. We have a recycling bin that is used religiously and a non recyclable bin that is usually half full when the bin men come for it every two weeks. I recycle glass, clothes, shoes and garden rubbish in the relevant recycling banks.

The reason I'm twittering on like this is because I do not consider myself to have an excessive lifestyle and I'm conscious of the impact that my carbon footprint is having on the planet, yet I am facing the prospect of rising electricity bills that I will struggle to pay all because of factors that are way beyond my control. I completely agree that something needs to be done now if our children's children are to see the next century, but how is raising the cost of living by higher gas and electricity prices going to achieve it? We will end up with two classes in society; the people who can afford to live an opulent lifestyle and who will continue to waste resources without a care for anything or anyone, and people like you and me who will have to decide between eating and heating our houses.

Rant over.

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throckenholt · 31/10/2006 14:28

haven't read the rest of the thread yet - but one thing that really annoys me is loads of people flying around the world to talk about global warming - are they so darn thick that they don't realise that air travel is one of the main contributors.

And green taxes to replace other taxes - what is the point - the idea is to make us reduce our effect on the planet - that means that over time green taxes should decrease over time - so we will still need the other taxes to pay for normal things.

I woul dhave more respect for them if they said green taxes will exclusively go to green issues - including research into more uses for all our recycled junk, and alternative energy etc. And why are they not subsidising solar panels etc much much more. ? We looked into it - but the cost was prohibitive and payback time was decades.

Boowila · 31/10/2006 14:34

Oh, and if they start taxing rubish collection I bet they'll start find a lot more rubbish in places other than people's bins. And then it will be a lot more costly to collect.

expatinscotland · 31/10/2006 14:39

They already are in some parts, Boo.

Real Story did a special on it the other day.

mumfor1standfinaltime · 31/10/2006 14:40

With expat on this one! Agree with all your views!

I live in rented new build ha house, we have gas central heating, but we have no garden at all so cant have compost heap, everything is open plan and concrete with a huge drive way for 2 cars! We have no washing line or space to put one and I can't afford to run a tumble dryer (not that I want one) - why are new builds being built like this? Not going to help the environment really is it!

ginmummy · 31/10/2006 14:44

To conserve space because we're overpopulating the planet, but then again we need to make more babies to pay for our retirement...

I've been trying to come up with an invention for drying washing indoors in a compact space but there's a hitch with everything I think of and I can see me being booted out of the Dragon's Den!

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mumfor1standfinaltime · 31/10/2006 14:47

We have a piece of garden next to our house which could be split into 4 driveways, allowing our row to have a garden each with 1 parking space at the side of our house. Bad planning in my mind and things done on the cheap!

I have to hang laundry on the bannisters, radiatiors and on a close horse! Haven't got a fire to stand it near either!
When we moved in there was a poxy dryer which pulled out over the bath, it has broken!

expatinscotland · 31/10/2006 14:49

I gave up on retirement years ago.

mumfor1standfinaltime · 31/10/2006 14:52

Thats ok expat, I gave up the idea of having a garden one day too!

expatinscotland · 31/10/2006 14:53

That, too, mum!

mumfor1standfinaltime · 31/10/2006 14:55

boo hoo!

ginmummy · 31/10/2006 14:59

expat

My washing all has to go on a clotheshorse in the kitchen as there's nowhere else to hang it. I don't have any radiators and with the house being 'compact' there's nowhere else for it to go. I'm investing in an over door airer on my way home tonight because now that the weather's turning.

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mumfor1standfinaltime · 31/10/2006 15:03

Do tell me more,what is an over door airer? I am open to many ideas on the 'how the hell do I dry my clothes in winter living in a concrete shoebox with no outside space 'subject. Grr I hate my house sometimes, can you tell lol!

expatinscotland · 31/10/2006 15:06

We can't use the radiators, either, gin, b/c they're electric and catch things afire.

We do have a tumble dryer, but the hose has to stick out one of the bedroom windows b/c there's no other place for it to go, so we only use it for towels.

Everything else goes on a rack in the hall that we constantly trip over.

ginmummy · 31/10/2006 15:08

From what I can tell there are two hooks that just hook over a door and two grills that hang down for you to put your washing over. Have a look at the Argos catalogue in the laundry section. I'll let you know if it's any good

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expatinscotland · 31/10/2006 15:08

This flat is slowly driving me spare.

ginmummy · 31/10/2006 15:09
Grin
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mumfor1standfinaltime · 31/10/2006 15:47

Will be looking in argos later then! Anything to save space!

Iklboo · 31/10/2006 15:48

Over door airers are a GOD SEND!

Iklboo · 31/10/2006 15:49

Ours have about 3 or 4 "rails" and are great for hanging DS's clothes on (not so good for hulking great daddy'd stuff)

mumfor1standfinaltime · 31/10/2006 15:59

I have been missing out! I am going to buy one tomorrow!

CountessDracula · 31/10/2006 20:01

how about one that goes over the bath on a pulley?

Like this

mumfor1standfinaltime · 31/10/2006 20:14

That doesn't look too bad, a nice idea. Might look into that one!
We had a cheap plastic one which went across the bath and retracted back, it broke within a couple of months

figroll · 01/11/2006 10:13

I haven't read all of this thread and I am quite worried about global warming and the threat to us and our children. However, do any of you remember in the 1970s/80s when there was a lot of talk about going into the next ice age?

My kids worry an awful lot about global warming, as it is rammed down their throats at every possible opportunity at school (Geography and Physics), and also on Newsround at least once a week. To stop them worrying and to make them feel better I always tell them about how 20 years ago we were about to enter the next ice age. It makes them laugh anyway!

I get rather annoyed about preaching on to the children about global warming, because there is very little that they can do about it. Tony Blair ought to start preaching on to George Bush about global warming, because the statistics on emissions from USA are very alarming indeed.

expatinscotland · 01/11/2006 10:19

I'd like something sturdy to dry clothes over the bath, but the really good ones you have to drill into hte wall, and the landlord wouldn't allow that.

Boowila · 01/11/2006 10:38

You could do it anyway.