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If you are fed up of the WOHM vs SAHM debate (I know I am) DO NOT open the News Review bit of the Sunday Times....

275 replies

foxinsocks · 29/10/2006 12:47

just don't do it

OP posts:
rebelmum1 · 30/10/2006 12:33

Haven't read all the threads but thought it was quite funny. Can you call writing work?

rebelmum1 · 30/10/2006 12:45

If you were a writer you could do it while they were in bed and wouldn't have to go to work.

Clarinet60 · 30/10/2006 12:46

ALL the articles she's written for the ST over the last couple of months have been awful, really vitriolic. The most stupid one was about the new car seat regulations and what an unnecessary nuisance it was for us to have to buy them, and other such crap. I've no idea why the ST gives her column space.

rebelmum1 · 30/10/2006 12:48

Any number of SAHM could do a better job writing the column..

schneebly · 30/10/2006 12:50

she is full of shit! I am a SAHM (pretty much) and my 3 year old made DH a sandwich yesterday! (dry bread and ham but it is a start!) They have to learn to be independent otherwise how can I find the time to study and post on MN?!

rebelmum1 · 30/10/2006 12:52

I bet her mummy SAH..

LadyMacbeth · 30/10/2006 13:04

Ha! This from the woman who recently ranted about the media's perpetuation of the myth of the alpha mum!

I see she likes to have a gool old go on the wooden spoon herself.

BTW, it must be nice to earn '000's for writing articles that are clearly rattled out in between the school run... I wonder how many other mothers out there would work if they could have such a cushty set up!

How very smug and utterly ignorant. Bring back India Knight I say.

rebelmum1 · 30/10/2006 13:22

It was probably written on the train .. scribble, scribble ..loads a money..jobs a good 'un

pesha · 30/10/2006 13:29

Normally i can get quite worked up over debates like this but her article was such a load of rubbish I cant take it seriously. Seems to me like a cheap attempt to cause a bit of controversy and get a bit of attention. Its too ridiculous to bother with.

satine · 30/10/2006 13:33

My first thought when I read the article was "Here's a woman with a chip on her shoulder about being a working mum". Clearly she has plenty of Issues. Chiefly the fact that she's a poor writer, which must hurt, given her family background!! Silly cow.

Piffle · 30/10/2006 13:37

How insecure and guilty about the job she is doing as a mother must she be to need to lash out so harshly at others in such an uneducated massive over generalising way.
As if good healthy outdoor skin, pleasant demeanour and please and thank yous are the domain of the children of working mothers alone.
Honestly that someone gets paid for producing such drivel.
I think Jeremy Clarkson does more for the environment than Daisy Waugh does for mothering.

Orlando · 30/10/2006 13:46

I remember travelling by train to Inverness when I was about 6 when my grandfather was in the last stages of terminal illness. I'm sure my mother was at similar pains to amuse us (1970s style-- so fuzzy felt rather than DVD) and I'm sure my brother and I were similarly downcast (He was my father's father, and we adored him.)

What the hell gives her the right to pass such public judgement on people she knows NOTHING about? And profit by it? Disgraceful.

Highlander · 30/10/2006 14:16

ROFL

Just when you thought the last word/piece of inflammatory drivel on SAHM vs. WM had been squeezed out...........

piglit · 30/10/2006 14:21

I am sooo glad to read all your posts. I was so angry when I read her badly written shitty article. Something has obviously made her feel very guilty about WOTH so she's decided to take it out on SAHMs.

I suspect that she's been told that no one reads her crappy articles so she's decided to be controversial just to get a response. Stupid cow.

Daisymoo · 30/10/2006 21:00

Apparently India Knight's move to the Comment secion is a permanent one. Let's hope Daisy Waugh isn't

PrincessPeaHead · 30/10/2006 21:08

I don't think she is a bad writer, I think this paragraph is hilarious:

Because the way things were going it?s hard to imagine how such intensively reared children (so safely kept and so healthily fed that they?ll probably never die) are ever going to be able to fend for themselves. The pair of them, like so many of these fashionably over-mothered children, looked set to be a charmless burden on generations of taxpayers from the moment they leave their nest until the moment the world is submerged by melted ice caps.

Of course it is a bit of a silly article but she clearly was just completely irritated by a woman on a train, and had to make up a column about something.

Actually that mum was probably a goldman sachs analyst who was overcompensating, or something.

ScareyCaligulaCorday · 30/10/2006 21:11

LOL PPH maybe we should all send in letters to the Sunday Times saying "I was that mother, it was my first day off in two years..."

Boowila · 30/10/2006 21:17

Ah, Peahead, you've reverted to your former self.

sallyrosie · 30/10/2006 21:23

oooohhh I had to read it and it has made me cross although as a 'working mum' I have to confess that these super yummy mummies do make me feel a teensy bit inferior...

What I particularly didn't like was the suggestion that as a working mum I am not a 'full time mum'. I am a mum 24hrs a day, 7 days a week. I just happen to work as well.

Stay at home mum is a better term.

GRRRRRR

PrincessPeaHead · 30/10/2006 21:28

and BOO! to you too uwila

it was a lonely business, being queen. I feel much closer to all of you great unwashed now that I am a mere princess again....

I dare you, caligula, to write in saying "I object to that article, I am the mother of Augustus and Jemima who were unfairly described by Ms Waugh. I am a Senior Managing Director at Bear Stearns, with an annual bonus exceeding by a factor of 10 Ms Waugh's lifetime earnings to date. My children were superbly well behaved, assisted by the contents of the travel bag beautifully packed by my au pair, Svetlana. Kindly check your facts before allowing Ms Waugh free rein in future"

ScareyCaligulaCorday · 30/10/2006 22:17

Can I copy that word for word, PPH? I simply can't improve on it!

PrincessPeaHead · 30/10/2006 22:18

It is all yours, my dear

I AM rather good, aren't I? [smug emoticon]

Piffle · 30/10/2006 22:19

PPH not just a princess poppet, a goddess of the written word.
Encore

PrincessPeaHead · 30/10/2006 22:21

And to think I was once just a jumped up office girl..... sigh...... how far I've come

handlemecarefully · 30/10/2006 23:50

I see that this very article is now being referenced on the other thread (should I give up a salary of £200,000 to be a SAHM) with the implication that it might not be judicious to choose the SAHM option

Thud