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Russell Brand wins well-deserved Foot in Mouth award

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claig · 04/12/2014 07:38

"Yesterday the comedian and self-styled revolutionary was honoured with an award – for speaking gobbledygook.

He won the annual Foot in Mouth prize from the Plain English campiagn, joining the likes of John Prescott and George W Bush."
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"The group’s website said that Brand’s ‘seemingly endless stream of gibberish, both written and verbal’ had clinched the award."
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"Organisers said Brand – who has carved a career out of using many, often inflammatory, words when one would do – was ‘out on his own’ in the competition."

Surely that can't be right? He must have faced stiff competition from the Labour front bench

"The Plain English judges singled out this rant from The Guardian: ‘I felt very connected to activism – particularly activism that feels loaded with potential. Not the oppositional activism that seems like there’s a stasis around it – earnestly sincere, but a monolith.’

How they managed to single this rant out from the rest of the rants in the Guardian beats me. But they are professionals. To me it just seems like New Labour speak without the polar bears.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2858403/Brand-wins-award-gobbledygook.html

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MuddhaOfSuburbia · 05/12/2014 13:38

yes, sorry wholovesthesun

I only skimmed the thread

you ok hun?

CarmelasFridge · 05/12/2014 13:49

I meant the OP. Just to clarify.

Don't make eye contact.

WhoLovesTheSun · 05/12/2014 14:25

Well, there you go.

GilbertBlytheWouldGiftIt · 05/12/2014 14:39

Ok.

Well please don't include me in your definition of The People, thank you so much.

Crackpot

claig · 05/12/2014 14:43

OK, I shall include you with the Establishment.

Tosspot

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Isitmebut · 05/12/2014 14:56

Watching two men (Brand & Farage), who both cherry pick issues for publicity, will be like a couple of blokes having a pissing contest without a usefully sized knob between them. IMNSHO.

SquidgyMaltLoaf · 05/12/2014 17:25

?? Isitmebut

GilbertBlytheWouldGiftIt · 05/12/2014 18:55

No. I'm just not in need of rescue from the likes of Farage.

RedToothBrush · 05/12/2014 22:51

claig Fri 05-Dec-14 12:17:53
I am a woman. Diane James, Louise Bours, Suzanne Evans, Margot Parker, Jane Collins etc are all great UKIP MEPs and members. Don't believe the media and the Establishment that UKIP are anti-women.

Nope there is no need when you can hear it direct from the horse's mouth, that women should sit in the corner. Oh sorry that was taken out of context, yep. What he met to say is that women who breastfeed in public are lacking in good manners.

Yes, Mr Farage is incredibly good at women's issues and loves them all...

...as long as they are hidden under a blanket.

BOFster · 05/12/2014 23:10

And clean behind the fridge. Don't forget that one.

MuddhaOfSuburbia · 05/12/2014 23:57

Can't work phone gah
Just seen this on the twitter
See if it works

Russell Brand wins well-deserved Foot in Mouth award
PuffinsAreFictitious · 07/12/2014 00:13

The best explanation of why anyone would vote kipper is that they are elderly and poorly educated.

Judging by claig's increasingly manic outpourings of lust for her Great Leader, I'd say that was fairly astute. And it is like a cult. Not seen any supporter of any other 'political' party trolling Twitter to threaten people who ridicule their party, only kippers. All we need is a version of Kristallnacht and the transformation will be complete.

claig · 07/12/2014 02:03

You are right that there are lots of Kippers who are like me - old, thick and with no sense of humour. But it's not a cult, it's the People's Army and we are tearing up the Establishment's lawns.

But the People's Army, contrary to what the Establishment say about us, are attracting lots of young voters.

This is from Sky's political correspondent, Anushka Asthana

"UKIP Confounds Expectations To Win Teen Votes"
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"I was struck by the range of people who told me in May that they were proud to be voting UKIP in the European elections. Among them was a wealthy older couple in Cheshire who had always voted Conservative and a working class "socialist" in Rotherham who had always backed Labour.

It wasn't just men and it wasn't just white people either.

But perhaps most unusual was the 18-year-old I met in Kingston, Surrey, who was ready to put his cross by Nigel Farage's party.

That did throw me a bit.

Personally, I have long been convinced that UKIP's anti-EU, tough on immigration brand would persuade traditional voters of the Left.

It was less easy to predict that it could attract young voters too.

But then there it was again, in Clacton-on-Sea at the by-election last week. First a pair of 17-year-old girls, giggling excitedly, as they told me they would have voted for "Douglas" [Carswell] last week if they had been old enough.

They will be 18 by May, and they will back UKIP if things carry on like this.

When I asked them about the Conservative and Labour parties, they looked a bit confused and said they hadn't heard much about either.

As we finished the interview, I noticed another young man hovering close by who wanted to add his view into the mix. He was 18 and had not only voted for Mr Carswell in the by-election but was already a UKIP member who used "we" when talking about Nigel Farage's party."

news.sky.com/story/1353249/ukip-confounds-expectations-to-win-teen-votes

And this is from the Guardian

"From Ukip to the Green party, the young people looking for an alternative

While the big parties stagnate, once-fringe rivals are attracting more and more members in school or college"
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It is Saturday morning and 14-year-old Jonathan Wood is taking a break from canvassing for Ukip in Rochester High Street. He finished his maths homework late the night before so he could dedicate his weekend to campaigning for Tory defector Mark Reckless.
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Young Labour and Conservative Future still have most members – 20,000 and 15,000 respectively – but as more young people seek an alternative, the presence of the established parties appears to be stagnating. At Bath University, support for Conservative Future collapsed to the point that it was disaffiliated from the student union. “As far as I know, Ukip is the only political society applying to be there,” says Jack Duffin, chairman of the UK Young Independence movement. “Recently we’ve had three students from the University of Exeter contact us, expressing a wish to set up a Young Independence society.”

In a recent poll by Tory peer Lord Ashcroft, just 11% of 18-to-24-year-olds said they would vote for the Conservatives if there were a general election tomorrow, as opposed to 12% for Ukip and 19% for the Greens. In the same poll, the Liberal Democrats came out on a par with the British National party, both securing a meagre 2% of the 18-to-24 vote.

“I was a Liberal Democrat,” admits 21-year-old Ukip Students chairman Joe Jenkins. “I campaigned and told all my friends to vote for the Liberal Democrats because ‘when we go to university it’ll be free’. And then for me to turn around and tell my friends, ‘Oh, sorry, they lied to me too’ – it was ridiculous. I’ll never forgive them for it.” Under his leadership, Young Independence launched Ukip Students this summer and has established 18 societies in universities across the UK, with a particular stronghold at the University of Chester."

www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/01/ukip-green-party-young-people-alternative

This is why the Establishment need Brand more than they have ever needed him. They know that Brand won't win over the old, thick and humourless like me, but they are desperately hoping that Brand can stem the tide of young people abandoning Establishment parties and flocking to the People's Army and other parties.

Brand is the Establishment's last hope. If he fails to stop UKIP then the Establishment knows that the People's Army will be tearing up their lawns.

Tune in Thursday night BBC1, don't miss the fun. The old, the thick, the humourless and the young, we've got 'em on the run.

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claig · 07/12/2014 02:23

The results in Wales have shocked the Establishment to the core. Their Labour Party came close to losing in Wales. That is an earthquake, the like of which the Establishment had never dreamed. That was a nightmare for the Establishment. They are desperate to stop UKIP's success, but as Farage rightly said, it's too late, UKIP are already here.

"The party came within 4,500 votes of beating Labour into first place in the European elections in Wales in May.

Welsh Labour has launched an advertising campaign attacking Mr Farage as a "Thatcherite".

But during his speech to the conference, Mr Farage responded to Labour supporters saying UKIP is not welcome in Wales by saying: "It's a bit late mate, We're already here!"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-30347612

And Farage is already here on BBC Question Time on Thursday night. And the BBC have invited Brand on. Brand is all they have got left, but it's too late, just like it is for Labour in Wales.

As Brand said

"I ain't got time to look at graphs, mate".

UKIP are tearing up their lawns. It's way too late.

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sparklecrates · 07/12/2014 02:23

I think it's impact to realise that what we the people have created by mutual agreement is a system that has been created from pats of our humanity without making coherency a system that has life and breath of a sort but is also simultaneously souless and soul-sucking, whilst it also seeks to give us the illusion that it is in and of itself all we are, needs and exist for. It is the anti soul if you like, yet we worship it for the miserable freedoms it gives us, without realising it is us. iyswim.

sparklecrates · 07/12/2014 02:25

Why is UKIP tearing up lawns? That seems a bit bizarre tbh. Is it true?

Glastokitty · 07/12/2014 02:43

Completely hatstand!

claig · 07/12/2014 02:45

'Why is UKIP tearing up lawns? ... Is it true?'

Yes, sparklecrates, it is true.

"Their tanks are digging up my lawn," Sarah Champion, Labour's MP for Rotherham, told the Today programme this morning. Ukip are in Doncaster today for their annual conference, with Labour firmly in their sights, and that party is beginning to worry. Forget the obvious symbolism of holding the event in Ed Miliband's backyard (although the venue itself is actually in the seat of Labour's Chief Whip, Rosie Winterton). Wiser heads within Labour have long said that Nigel Farage's party posed a threat to Ed Miliband as well as David Cameron. Now the word from the party's footsoldiers is beginning to filter through to the top brass.

The party leadership believes they may have found the trick to beating the People's Army. You can't trust Ukip with the NHS – huh, deja vu – is their line."

blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/stephenkb/100287806/morning-briefing-its-not-eu-its-me/

They are desperate. Their Establishment parties have nothing left. Just the same old, same old - NHS. But it won't work in Wales or anywhere else.

They need Brand big time. That is all they have left.

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claig · 07/12/2014 02:49

''Why is UKIP tearing up lawns?'

That id the question that all the Establishment's Oxbridge PPEs, spinners and teenagers in think tanks are trying to understand, but none of them have got a clue.

The answer is very simple and if they left their ivory towers and metropolitan hangouts and spoke to any ordinary people they would find out the answer why.

The people have had enough and they are joining the People's Army.

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claig · 07/12/2014 02:57

'a system that has life and breath of a sort but is also simultaneously souless and soul-sucking, whilst it also seeks to give us the illusion that it is in and of itself all we are, needs and exist for'

That is the best description of the Labour Party I have read for a long time. Is it any wonder people are flocking to something real, to Farage and the People's Army?

Will a millionaire clown be able to take UKIP down? That's what the Establishment hope for on the BBC's flagship political programme. We will have to wait and see who wins - the Establishment or the people.

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sparklecrates · 07/12/2014 03:22

Yes but what about the other millionaire clowns? Are the millionaires the establishment or the clowns? Why does the word establisment make me think of white hair and shirts under jumpers? These and many other questions trouble me greatly. I can't tell if village britain is the place where we stand or is it where we fall?

I'm still confused about the lawns. Are Farage etc doing something with ground source water heating?

if The great satan is a state of mind where are the dynasties of charlamaign? are they the people or the establishment?

If we go all scaredy-cat we might disappear like that... pouff.. and then where will your class system be eh? eh?

claig · 07/12/2014 03:30

'Yes but what about the other millionaire clowns?'

Do you mean the Bullingdon Club and Labour's top brass?
They are both in trouble because the People's Army are tearing up their lawns too.

'Are the millionaires the establishment or the clowns?'
Not all millionaires are the establishment or clowns, just mainly the ones in the Establishment parties.

'I can't tell if village britain is the place where we stand or is it where we fall?'
From the reports of how the People's Army is "tearing up their lawns", it seems that it is in the villages where the metropolitan elite will fall.

"Are Farage etc doing something with ground source water heating?"
No, that is more the Greens' type of thing.

Your final two questions are beyond my educational competence. I'm just an old, thick Kipper. I don't know about all that, all I know is we are "tearing up their lawns".

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sparklecrates · 07/12/2014 03:37

Its beyond me this lawn thing

claig · 07/12/2014 03:46

It's beyond Labour's comprehension too. They don't know what to do. They're tuning in to Russell Brand's Trews, hoping they might find a clue.

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mathanxiety · 07/12/2014 04:04

To the question "Why should they have to [give up family life for the sake of a career]? "

claig Fri 05-Dec-14 12:45:13
Farage was only saying what he thinks the reality is. He was not making any judgement about why it was like that.

Well, that's certainly revolutionary.