Russell Brand wins well-deserved Foot in Mouth award

[claig]

"Yesterday the comedian and self-styled revolutionary was honoured with an award – for speaking gobbledygook.

He won the annual Foot in Mouth prize from the Plain English campiagn, joining the likes of John Prescott and George W Bush."
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"The group’s website said that Brand’s ‘seemingly endless stream of gibberish, both written and verbal’ had clinched the award."
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"Organisers said Brand – who has carved a career out of using many, often inflammatory, words when one would do – was ‘out on his own’ in the competition."

Surely that can't be right? He must have faced stiff competition from the Labour front bench

"The Plain English judges singled out this rant from The Guardian: ‘I felt very connected to activism – particularly activism that feels loaded with potential. Not the oppositional activism that seems like there’s a stasis around it – earnestly sincere, but a monolith.’

How they managed to single this rant out from the rest of the rants in the Guardian beats me. But they are professionals. To me it just seems like New Labour speak without the polar bears.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2858403/Brand-wins-award-gobbledygook.html

"the revolution is not occurring on Mr Brand’s side – it’s happening with UKIP, and it’s happening fast."

It took decades for the SNP to achieve the heights it has reached now. All the Establishment ganged up on the SNP and their luvvies love bombed the people of Scotland.

UKIP has only risen to anu significant level of prominence within the past two years after lifelong Tories had had enough and now Labour voters have joined us. All the Esatblishment have ganged up on UKIP, just like they did against the SNP. But this time, it is not only the future of Scotland that hangs in the balance but the future of Britain.

UKIP won't take decades to topple the spinners, it will come very, very fast. Their luvvies can't love bomb us, their Establishment promoted clowns and comedians can't con us, their packed audiences of hecklers and booers won't stop us, and their Oxbridge PPEs can't patronise and play us.

We're tearing up their lawns and they have no answer. We're not "left behind", we're right in front, we don't "belong to the past", they do.

A Metro columnist thinks Brand won 3-1

"Russell Brand ripped Nigel Farage to shreds on Question Time last night"

metro.co.uk/2014/12/12/russell-brand-ripped-nigel-farage-to-shreds-on-question-time-last-night-4984289/

But I agree with the Telegraph columnist, Tim Stanley, who makes some very good points and also noticed the BBC's plug and promotion of Brand in their "End the Drug War" programme.

Brand is the left's champion, he is promoted by the Esatblishment BBC, Guardian and New Statesman and that is why the left are going to lose. They are as out of touch with ordinary people as Cameron and the Etonians are and the fact that they promote the clown, Brand, shows it.

"Look, Brand isn’t a bad or untalented person. But he’s not the Messiah, either. He condemns the elites and big money but he’s only where he is because TV producers have promoted him to that position. Proof that he enjoys an absurd amount of cultural capital was the fact that this edition of BBC Question Time was followed by an ad for his new documentary about drug rehabilitation on BBC3. And while he claims to be on the side of ordinary people (and, hey, is indeed authentically working-class and from the south east), his schtick goes down best with metropolitan liberals, Green Party activists and students. In fact, Russell Brand epitomises everything that went wrong for the Left. It still romantically sees itself as the voice of the folks but it’s utterly divorced from their concerns and culture. In Kent, we don’t do New Age religion, we don’t do long hair, we don’t do banker bashing and we don’t do one-world-let’s-give-away-free-money stuff. Again, it’s not that we’re all Ukippers. It’s just that we prefer a bit of experience and reason."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11289211/Russell-Brand-v-Nigel-Farage-the-audience-won-by-knockout.html

Claig ... how can ANY party who's leader calls its own 2010 General Election manifesto "drivel" be the honking political, economic or social solution to anything???

Especially as the UKIP Farage snake oil salesman doesn't just shed their policy skin every year, they shed their donors, their previously hailed 'key people' and even their candidate activists of numerous years, if the they can persuade a sitting Conservative candidate to defect to UKIP and do what over 559 UKIP candidates could not do in 2010 - and win Westminster seats.

Now I see the UKIP 'peoples army' rescued/remoulded after the 2010 General Election by a FTSE Spread Betting company owner that masterminded the Conservative defections for ex City Farage. is also threatening to leave.

“Ukip donor threatens to quit over Hamilton drop-out”
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-donor-threatens-to-quit-over-hamilton-9919549.html
”But a senior party member claimed the dispute was “all to do with Nigel’s ego”.

And here was another donor biting the dust in what Farage's wife has reported to have called the (UKIP) 'freakshow'.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2577335/Inside-Ukip-freakshow-Workers-partys-bizarre-HQ.html

“Ex-MEP Godfrey Bloom quits Ukip... because it is too 'politically correct' and warns Douglas Carswell: 'Watch your back'”
• Bloom said he was leaving with a 'heavy heart' but had 'had enough'
• He said he had been banned from speaking to Ukip activists
• Former MEP caused fury in past over remarks about 'Bongo Bongo land'
• Bloom also warned Ukip's new MP Douglas Carswell: 'Watch your back'

‘Bear in mind we started in 2009 in Europe with 13 MEPs and we ended up with five, so there are dead UKIP bodies all over the place with knives quivering in their back so make sure it’s not yours.’

”The former MEP, who was first elected to Brussels in 2004, said: ‘I was a founding member of Ukip and I’ve been a significant donor.”

‘But now I find that instead of being the libertarian party, the party of common sense, I’ve been banned from speaking.

Why don't the press interview some of the firefighters in the firefighter's union in Grays, Essex, whom he always says he is on the side of?

They are from Essex (UKIP country), bellwether of the nation, the county the
metropolitan elite fear, the one they say "belongs to the past", the one they want to "leave behind". I don't believe a single one of them votes Labour unless they are some sort of union official.

'how can ANY party who's leader calls its own 2010 General Election manifesto "drivel" be the honking political, economic or social solution to anything???'

We've been over this hundreds of times. It's not about policies, it doesn't matter. The people are in revolt, they have had enough.

Essex will topple Tories like skittles at a bowling alley. They called us names, they laughed at us, they said they wanted to "leave us behind", they said we "belonged to the past". We are the people and we will topple them all, however great and good they are, however high and mighty, and however many PPEs from Oxbridge they have.

Brand is from Essex but he is unlike anyone else in Essex, because Essex is UKIP country, we stand against the spinners, we are the People's Army and he is the only Establishment eejit in Essex.

Why does the press interview Farage AT ALL, he just lies through his teeth.

These were the Public Sector policies signed off upon BY Farage when after Conservative far right voters, ditched after he got those votes and started targeting Labour.

“At-a-glance: UKIP (2010) general election manifesto”
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8617187.stm
• Reduce public sector to 1997 size, diverting two million jobs to manufacturing and industry
• Freeze public sector pensions, bringing them "back into line with typical private sector pension provision".

Is THIS the man that can be trusted to be let loose on the Public Sector; cutting over 1 million new employees from 1997 to 2010 and look after the firemans pensions?

The 3-faced Farage will say anything to anyone, depending on which main party voters he is after.

'The 3-faced Farage will say anything to anyone, depending on which main party voters he is after.'

He has got a rubber-like face that can gurn for England and take on all manner of expressions, but the whole point is that he is after voters from every one of the three parties, because UKIP is the People's Party, the press rightly call it the People's Army, it represents all of the people and opooses the metropolitan elite, unlike the other three who are factional and lackeys of the elite.

"We've been over this hundreds of times. It's not about policies, it doesn't matter. The people are in revolt, they have had enough."

And voting for a 3-faced bottom wipe, with no policies ever seeing their first birthday, no innovative solutions to what the 'people have had enough', including the budget deficit they'd enlarge each year by £17 billion - and ensure we get some coalition of in fighting numb nuts in 2015, to sort the Uks problems out, is the answer?

I wonder why anyone that looks at detail, don't get the Farage luv in?

How do you get up every morning to write the UKIP drivel; it would depress the life out of me spreading no substance propaganda.

They interviewed former Scottish Labour voters on Radio 4's Today programme this morning. They said Labour was an Establishment party. Of course it is. All the parties are Establishment parties apart from the SNP, UKIP and possibly the Greens (but that is debatable).

The reason UKIP will win is because nearly every ordinary person in the country has had enough of the Esatblishment spinners who are ruining our country and allowing fat cats to enrich themselves while they laugh at us and say we "belong to the past".

It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it. Most Burmese are familiar with the four a-gati, the four kinds of corruption. Chanda-gati, corruption induced by desire, is deviation from the right path in pursuit of bribes or for the sake of those one loves. Dosa-gati is taking the wrong path to spite those against whom one bears ill will, and moga-gati is aberration due to ignorance. But perhaps the worst of the four is bhaya-gati, for not only does bhaya, fear, stifle and slowly destroy all sense of right and wrong, it so often lies at the root of the other three kinds of corruption. Just as chanda-gati, when not the result of sheer avarice, can be caused by fear of want or fear of losing the goodwill of those one loves, so fear of being surpassed, humiliated or injured in some way can provide the impetus for ill will. And it would be difficult to dispel ignorance unless there is freedom to pursue the truth unfettered by fear. With so close a relationship between fear and corruption it is little wonder that in any society where fear is rife corruption in all forms becomes deeply entrenched.
Aung San Suu Kyi

If you say, policies do not matter, then you just prove all the things people are saying about what we are sleeping walking into out of fear.

UKIP is no different to every other far left or right group THROUGHOUT EUROPE, getting votes because 'the people' are sick to the teeth with the worst recession since the 1930's, starting in 2008 - only in the UK, we are in far better shape than Europe, which UKIP wants to screw up - for Westminster power and BECOME establishment with those same problems.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11231687/Nigel-Farage-is-desperate-for-Ukip-to-join-the-cosy-Westminster-clique.html

'How do you get up every morning to write the UKIP drivel'

Because this is the most fun ordinary people have had for years. They call us "left behind" and say that we "belong to the past" and we are tearing up their lawns and they are tearing out their hair.

We are on the verge of monumental change. We are going to topple the arrogant elite and give power back to the people. That's why Farage experienced the "most extraordinary meeting" he has ever witnessed in a humble hall in the "left behind" town of Clacton, in the "belongs to the past" county of Essex, just a stone's throw from the "poorest council ward in England" that the millionaire Oxbridge PPEs shamelessly allowed to decline.

"The hall where it was held is only a stone’s throw from Jaywick, the jumble of former holiday chalets and potholed streets that is reckoned to be the poorest council ward in England: on the face of it, a symbol of the kind of deep social problems that tend to be synonymous with political apathy. That night, though, about 900 people turned up.

It’s said that Farage considers it the most extraordinary meeting he’s ever experienced."

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/08/clacton-byelection-parties-defiance-coast-strood-ukip

We're making history, we're tearing up their lawns.

"synonymous with political apathy"

There is no political apathy in Essex, we're tearing up their lawns.

We refuse to listen to the Establishment Pied Paper, Russell Brand, who tells us not to vote. We are going to vote alright, we're going to vote them out.

It doesn't matter what the weather is like on election day in May. Everyone in the whole of Essex will make it to their polling booth, apart from the millionaire, Russell Brand, who won't be voting.

The young, the old, the healthy, the infirm, the rich and the poor will all vote UKIP, we are going to kick the rascals out, we are going to tear up their lawns and then we are going to laugh and celebrate with pints and we won't leave the pubs until past midnight and we will have to walk back home through pitch black streets because the elite turned all our street lights off after midnight to "save the planet" without asking a single one of us who pay for all their salaries and expenses. But it won't matter, because our hope will never die, we know there will be an end to it, we will make sure of it because we are going to kick them out.

In 2010 UKIP were going to 'tear up lawns', got nearly 1 million (3%) of the votes, and not one Westminster seat.

Meanwhile, that cost the Conservatives a 2010 majority, so forced by ex Conservative voters to go into a coalition with a socialist pro EU, pro immigration and asylum seeker Lib Dems - with no parliamentary majority to force an EU Referendum this parliament, for the next.

And with UKIP polling 15% at the mo, it ensures a 2015 socialist coalition/administration taking us back to pre 2010 econonomic, tax and spend policies.

So what UKIP promises the UK citizens, is not the ability to LEAVE the EU, but the certainty of staying IN and sharing their economic pain, far worse than ours at the moment.

Tbh in the last few weeks the momentum which UKIP had gathered has definitely waned I think they peaked mid summer when people in the UK lost their minds temporarily and I am convinced just reading online and talking to people in general that their light has gone out. The hardcore supporters may still be there but they are minimal and I think the big surprise at the next election will not be anything to do with Farage and co.

"In 2010 UKIP were going to 'tear up lawns', got nearly 1 million (3%) of the votes, and not one Westminster seat."

Yes, because UKIP has only really risen in the last two years. It all started in the May local council elections in the shires, one year before the Euro elections. That was the day when millions of former Tory voters abandoned the Tories and voted UKIP. I was just a small cog in that huge wheel, and I was scared of voting UKIP because I thought it might let Labour in. At that time, I thought I would only do it to make the Tories listen and change and felt that I would still vote Tory in 2015 because I was scared of Labour getting in. I'm sure that millions felt like me. But now I no longer care if Labour get in, and I am sure millions of others think the same. I won't go back to the Tories and millions of others probably won't either.

'I am convinced just reading online and talking to people in general that their light has gone out'

It's possible but I think it is all about trust and people no longer trust the Establishment parties. Look at Scotland, will Labour voters return to Scottish Labour, to the same old faces, the same old disgraces? People really have had enough, I can't see them going back.

'I think the big surprise at the next election will not be anything to do with Farage and co.'

Do you think it will be the Greens? I disagree with the Greens on many of their core beliefs, but I hope the Greens tear up their lawns too, I hope they topple the LibDems, Labour and the Tories, because then we are one step closer to change, to real democracy, to rule by the people, to PR, to the end of the Establishment Oxbridge elite.

So it was a different Christ Church where Mark Reckless studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics and he is in no way exactly the Establishment we are supposed to be rebelling from.

Or am I being really dim and blinkered?

But I have nothing against PPEs, I think it is a brilliant subject that is fascinating and we all know that Oxford is one of the most brilliant universities on the planet. That is why I am glad that Oxford actually took the unusual step of issuing a statement that they have no record of Natasha Bolter ever attending the great Oxford University, let alone attending the world-renowned PPE course that movers and shakers across the world all know, because when I an d many others watched her interview on the Establishment BBC, some of us began to wonder about the standards at Oxford and that would be a shame.

What I am against is puppets of the Esatblishment, people will sell ordinary people down the river for fame, glory and success, and I think that that unfortunately applies to some of our political class.

Mark Reckless was always a Tory rebel, he voted against what the whips told him to do many times. I think Mark Reckless has principles and won't do as he is told much of the time.

It doesn't matter what school you went to or how rich you are, all that matters is is your heart is with the people, that you will you defend the people from the fat cat elite who think they "belong to the past" and that you will turn on the people's street lights after midnight against an elite who doesn't even consult the people who pay for their perks before they make changes that affect people's lives?

George Orwell went to Eton, but he is one of us.
Farage went to Dulwich College, but he is one of us, which is why they are doing everything in their power to try and stop him and are calling him all the names, and possibly even swear words, under the sun.

What I am against is puppets of the Esatblishment, people will sell ordinary people down the river for fame, glory and success, and I think that that unfortunately applies to some of our political class.

You mean like Farage is happy to do. The breastfeeding comments aloneare a good example...

Honestly, your double standarded blinkers are comic. As are your conversations with yourself.

"your double standarded blinkers are comic"

Well I always said I want politics to be fun and I enjoy a laugh because it is laughter that will bring change and topple the pompous, out of touch elite, just as it did when all the people began to laugh at the emperor who had no clothes.

Farage has dared to say the emperor had no clothes and the people are all laughing and that explains why we are tearing up their lawns.

As Owen Jones so rightly said

"Laugh if you like. But we need satire more than ever

There’s nothing the establishment hates more than ridicule – that’s why it’s vital for a healthy democracy"

And on election night, the people of England and Wales will be laughing as they see UKIP tearing up their lawns and the people of Scotland will be laughing as they see the SNP tearing up their lawns.

As the legendary Charles Dickens of Rochester fame once said

"Wot larks, Pip, old chap, wot larks"

My local MP never went to Oxbridge. He studied engineering, qualified as a chartered accountant. He spent many years in business.

Does this mean I shouldn't vote for him?

Being as it is that I can't vote for Cameron, Clegg or Miliband.

I don't particularly like everything he has voted for and there are gaps in his voting record which I would prefer there not to be. But for the most part he has done a lot in the best interests of the local area. He's a decent MP as far as his record suggests.

Or is it you who is too caught up on personality rather than substance?

'Does this mean I shouldn't vote for him? '

If he is not UKIP, then I would say don't vote for him, but it is your decision and on your head be it.

'Or is it you who is too caught up on personality rather than substance?'

No, I don't care about personalities - I think Douglas Carswell is a joke, but if I lived in Clacton, I would vote for him simply because he is UKIP. I vote for parties and what they stand for, not personalities.

So I should vote for a party based on propaganda, media image and bollocks rather than decent politicians who work hard for those who they represent. Its all about football team style voting. Support them how ever much of a dickhead their manager, owners and players are.

Ok then.

At least we know the mentality we should be employing here when deciding how to vote.

'rather than decent politicians who work hard for those who they represent'

They all work hard, they all hold surgeries, they all fight for their constituents. That goes without saying.

You must vote for parties because it is their PPE leadership that determine policies and tell their whips to enforce that voting policy on your local MP.

It is what parties stand for that counts, not what local MPs might think.

Ian Austin is in a vulnerable seat. The People's Army are tearing everybody's lawns up, so he may not be able to cling on by his fingernails. But his tough immigration rhetoric won't be implemented because that is not Labour Party policy.

So it is the party that counts, not the individual MP who is having his lawn torn up by the People's Army.

"Ian Austin, one of former prime minister Gordon Brown’s closest allies, said senior figures in his party had told him he ‘sounded like the BNP’ when he complained that too many people were coming to Britain.

He said the Labour leadership should embrace tough policies including a ban on benefit payments to new migrants who have paid nothing into the system, fingerprinting at the Calais border, and up-front payments by foreigners for NHS care."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2826170/Bonfire-plotter-breaks-cover-Ian-Austin-tells-Ed-Miliband-tough-immigration.html