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All these 'promises' yet STILL no mention of removing Bedroom tax.

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AnyoneForTARDIS · 01/10/2014 17:09

He must think we're thick.

Last time all the promises that never came to be.

At least taking off the BT for disabled would go some way to redeem himself.

but nope, once again the disabled are forgotten.

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WipsGlitter · 01/10/2014 17:13

There will be no "repeal" of the bedroom tax, whoever cones to power next year.

I more labour hasn't pledged to reinstate child benefit to those who lost it and it would be frozen for two years.

Austerity is here to stay!

GratefulHead · 01/10/2014 17:14

Not a surprise really is it? Not exactly renowned for their care of the vulnerable in society.

GratefulHead · 01/10/2014 17:15

But why must austerity hit the poorest hardest?

WipsGlitter · 01/10/2014 17:17

Because that's who the government cares least about?

If you've a choice between making it ok for "people like you" or for a group of people whose life you don't comprehend you go for people like you every time.

Timcook · 01/10/2014 17:18

I thought it was very unprofessional when he was shown guffawing at Boris Johnson mentioning Clegg (what does he do?) in his speech.

AnyoneForTARDIS · 01/10/2014 17:19

it just makes me so angry.

weve been pressured to 'downsize' as we have a tiny room adapted for disabilities, I cant afford the BT as it is, yet we cant find a 2 bed anywhere with the adaptations we need, its ridiculous.

weve had to 'stay and pay' and rent goes up each year.

always, societys attitude to disabled hasn't changed despite more education/resources about it.

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AnyoneForTARDIS · 01/10/2014 17:21

well, maybe not society as such as there are services, but the politicians. attitude.

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atticusclaw · 01/10/2014 17:24

The bedroom tax wasn't designed to target those who are disabled therefore it's unlikely to be removed.

Benefits are to be frozen to try to get us out of this massive economic mess. They won't be repealing. Neither would labour (even though they're going to be making everything better and paying for it with fairy dust and chocolate sprinkles).

AnyoneForTARDIS · 01/10/2014 17:28

that's why I said in thread op about at least for disabled.

I know it was for everyone with an extra room but they failed to comprehend that extra rooms in disabled households are for adaptations (ie- a walk in wet room) or a room with med equipment, or for a carer to stay.

for us that are disbled this is discrimination IMO.

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SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 01/10/2014 17:28

"There will be no "repeal" of the bedroom tax, whoever cones to power next year. "

I thought Labour said last year they were going to abolish it.

ReallyTired · 01/10/2014 17:35

A lot of good has come out of the "bedroom tax". (When it isn't actually a tax but a restriction of benefit.) It has freed up larger counicl/ social houses for those who need them. It is not acceptable to have a family of six in a one bed flat while another person on benefits is rolling about in a large property that they don't need at the tax payer's expense. However there does not need to be allowances available for disabled people on benefits who can demonstrate a need for an extra room.

Perhaps the bedroom tax should be decided on a regional basis. In places like Newcastle or wales there is no need for a bedroom tax as there is not such pressure on available social housing.

Many of the beneficies of the bedroom tax are not shouting from the rooftops. The fact that the bedroom tax has shortened waiting lists for families who need larger properties is not plastered all over the news.

claig · 01/10/2014 17:36

Yes, Labour will abolish it and UKIP want to abolish it. Not sure about the LibDems. The Tories will probably be in a coalition if they win and will then probably be forced to abolish it.

WipsGlitter · 01/10/2014 17:39

They've said they will but a pledge means nothing frankly. Look at tuition fees.

claig · 01/10/2014 17:41

But they have to try and redeem themselves and get some popularity back. They have no choice. They have to insist on it.

AnyoneForTARDIS · 01/10/2014 18:24

I just wonder if another petition/gathering at number 10/court appeal thingy like a disabled group tried to do some time back, might make them remember us.

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claig · 01/10/2014 18:29

I doubt it because they probably cannot change course because it would admit they had a made a big mistake.

AnyoneForTARDIS · 01/10/2014 18:43

well if they grew some balls and admitted it they would get more respect.

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SoonToBeSix · 01/10/2014 18:46

Really tired show me the statistics because it hadn't worked at all.

AnyoneForTARDIS · 01/10/2014 19:03

yes, and those who ended up ending their lives because they couldn't manage or cope financially and having to deal day by day with physical/mental/fnances as it was? and having this 'punishment' inflicted on them too?

I don't know how these politicians can sleep at night.

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AnyoneForTARDIS · 01/10/2014 19:04

benefits to be frozen.

But not their wages/expenses/pay rises eh?

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HesterShaw · 01/10/2014 19:09

He DOES think we're thick.

And austerity, including the bedroom tax, is an ideological policy dressed up as an economic one.

MrsDeVere · 01/10/2014 19:11

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HesterShaw · 01/10/2014 19:12

Last thing I heard it was simply causing hardship for people who had nowhere else to go. Where ARE all these smaller social houses that small families, couples and single people can just move to?

LeftRightCentre · 01/10/2014 19:21

Then where are those statistics, Really? Of all these families who moved. These people with six kids in one beds, should they be demonised if they are on benefits? The largest percentage of under-occupies, over 60s (I don't consider that elderly) are exempt.

GratefulHead · 01/10/2014 19:38

Statistics please reallytired or I will reserve the right to think you are talking a load of right wing fed bollocks.

I deal with families all the time who are struggling thanks to this spare room subsidy. Families who were placed in three bed places because of a shortage of two bedroom properties. Docking their housing benefit when there is nowhere to go is immoral and hits the most vulnerable hardest. Not that this Govt cares about the most vulnerable.

Don't even get me started on those who need that extra room for medical equipment and are still being affected by it. This policy has done fuck all except hit the poorest who can least afford the loss of income.