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speed Cameras - Rant alert

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magicfarawaytree · 27/09/2006 07:49

Why dont the wa**rs who go on about gettting rid of speed cameras go play catch on the m6! Get a life and put your engergy into something constructive. Its not like there isnt enough to choose from...education, crime in generel etc

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DominiConnor · 03/10/2006 09:21

Well the little bit of politics I do is heavy on this.
As it happens you don't have the right of silence, and as far as I can tell you never had.
There is a whole swarm of laws where refusal to answer is an offence. These are particulalry pernicious in financial services.

joelallie · 03/10/2006 10:29

Love MN!!! Anywhere else this would be about the unfairness of getting caught out by nasty sneaky cameras when I was doing a perfectly safe 80 miles an hour on an empty A-road and I'm such an excellent driver the rules shouldn't apply to me.

PretendFriend · 03/10/2006 10:41

HUB'S LINK ABOUT DURHAM POLICE AGAIN

(There are no fixed speed cameras in Durham and only one mobile one)

mummydear · 03/10/2006 11:20

DominiConnor - I think that the guy who is going to Court of Humna Rights is saying is that he does have an option but to name the driver if his car is caught speeding , he does have the right not to say anything bascailly.

Unlike if he was stopped in the street speeding or suspected of any other offence by the police and stopped by the police then he would be told

' You do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.'

So he has the right to remain silent, as they say in USA, but inference may be drawn from it.

( Howver speeding is whatt they call an absolute offence so there is no defence to it, even though people do get off with it at court !!)

Bascially if you are caught by speeding camera and get a letter through the post asking who is the driver , you have no choice but to answer it or get fined yourself . I beleive that is what the case is about.

Nobody has to answer police questioins when suspected of an offence whatever it may be ,but guilt may be infered from that silence by the court/jury.

ScareyCaligulaCorday · 03/10/2006 11:20

Well I don't care if they're using speed cameras to make money. If you don't want to be fined, slow down.

I also don't understand why someone "causes" an accident by driving under the speed limit Custardo. How exactly does that happen then? If I drive my car into someone else's car, why is that not my fault?

Tortington · 03/10/2006 12:47

your right dc about the debris - but they wern't there unless they work in the dark.

but i do concede the point about debris. even though you were very rude - as per. you twunt

DominiConnor · 03/10/2006 15:11

I don't apologise for the rudeness, since this person by his own admission puts his convenience above the safety of others.

I've worked on motorway in the dark, and also I'm intrigued to know how you could know for a fact no one was there ?
Certainly it possible to know this, but this does rather require you looking very carefully, more carefully than you could know whilst driving safely at high speed.

Also, not everyone where's the high visibility jackets, and they do get dirty. I won't confuse you with long words, but the type of light used on motorways can leave certain bright colours effectively black.

I have good eyesight, and even in daylight I occasionally have "where did the come from ?" moments. I certainly don't scan roadworks for their staffing levels since I'm quite keen on avoiding accidents.

Tortington · 09/10/2006 02:08

same way you know for a fact someone was there. can't imagine someone carrying out work in the dark.

thankyou for your consideration regarding my brain capacity - another presumption of yours - pray tell DC as you never ask for advice on this site, rarely talk about parenting issues - but always come on to preach - why are you here - is it some small dick thing? mysogyny? haven't got a red sports car?

oh how easy it is to be rude DC. however being rude and being witty rarely come hand in hand - your plainly rude. just a very rude person with a very small ego.

i dont want to trouble your brain cell with this small but relevent detail...

people working in the dark on motorways have lights on.

even if they are working on a drain - there will be lights around it - lots of lights.

lights lights everywhere - for safety reasons

Tortington · 09/10/2006 02:15

i didn't want to dirty your very name caligula by putting you in the same post as that brain dead piece of crap below.

however in answer to your question.

i think any driver worth their salt will recognise that people who drive slowly are as much of a danger i am not even sure how to explain it - but i drive hundreds of miles every month for work and all i can say is that there is a road expectation. you just know. its about speed of traffic infront anc continuation - if most cars are going 40 mph in a 40 zone then some old lady goes 30 - its just dangerous becuase your expectation is that she is going 40 - stopping distances reduce and hazards that you face all around you at any one time - the perceptions of such regarding time frames change. taking care of how to stop short from killing old lady without having the car behing you - who is also going at 40 going up YOUR arse and killing you - also a fator - all in a split second.

i am not saying there are not twunt drivers on the road. london bus drivers account for most of them i suspect i know speed kills - its just that there are other factors too and speed cameras are not for saferty - they just arnt - they are to make money.

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