Another!!! baby mauled by Rotwielers!

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Breaking news on Sky atm Bognor Regis area. I have avoided the other thread but I have said it before and I will say it again, these dogs do NOT mix well with children

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OMG - this is really unbelievable, so soon after the baby at the w/end.

I have made my feelings for dogs like this clear on other threads. No doubt the dog will be put down ( good riddance IMO) btut perhaps the owners should be put down as well.

Awful.

They have a Rot in the yard where I keep my horses, he is a nice dog but we would never leave him loose on the yard when there are children about, we always shut him in when strangers are around too. He weighs nearly 10 stone and he is a gaurd dog. it is just not worth the risk of him hassling someone, he can tell in an instant if someone is scared of him. Personally I wouldnt keep one, let alone two

but also, unusually

it is senseless and needless and tragic, imo.

WHY keep these dogs?

Dreadful. I shudder to read the latest. At the risk of probably many adverse responses (and I don't mean to be provocative to caring dog owners), but I would never trust ANY dogs, not just Rotti's, around young, vulnerable children or other small / vulnerable creatures. As a dog owner for many, many years and having worked with and around animals great and small, I just would never trust a dog completely.
There has been the odd look in a dog's eye that shows they can revert to pack instinct in an instant - and I've seen it happen to other small creatures or young livestock and was once a victim to a dog attack when I was little. Not all dogs are like this, but I'd never trust them alone with a child 100% EVER.

So tragic yet again. Is it true that the grandfather of the little girl who died last week from the attack was later stabbed and his partner also (resulting in her death) yet the police beleive the 2 incidences are just coincidence? That poor family .

I agree it can be any dogs not just a rotti. My nan and grandad had a couple of them when I was growing up and one was so docile it was unbelievable but the other had been a guard dog at their pub and was not to be left alone. I do think it is in any dog though no matter how placid they are you cant 100% trust them not to do anything to your children. We have a heinz 57 dog who is lovely and lets the tiddlers get away with murder but at same time I am always aware that something may just rile her.

Muddymum totally agree with you. I love our dog but wouldn't ever trust her 100% but wouldn't trust cattle, horses, cats or another toddler either. We all know what a child could do to a baby if they got cross with it, that's why we watch them with a baby, why would anyone think that a dog would be any different?

ComeO the grandfather being attacked really did have nothing to with the dog attack it would seem. The mother of the baby had left the little girl with her new boyfriends parents dogs. The man and women who were stabbed are the babys real fathers family. Iyswim. Very sad for the baby's dad as he doesn't seem to have been at fault or have anything to do with either attack so must be beyond devastated at the moment.

So so sad that the parents of the latest child that has been attacked didn't heed the warning that they should have done considering such a high profile story in the news already.

i love my dog (mongrel) but wd never trust him with baby even though he is very chilled out with DD always. every time i leave the room i call him to come with me. i know of a story where a distraught family brought their beloved family dog to be put down as it had bitten toddler. when the vet was putting the dog in the freezer he noticd a pencil crayon rammed in the dogs ear my 6mth old DD is fascinated by dog but will pinch him if he walks past so need to be very careful

FFS

Makes me wonder just how many attacks like this there actually are that don't make national news. Obviously now the dangerous dogs thing is going to be in the spotlight again we are going to hear about these attacks.

poor old dog bottmomburp.
for these children. Why are people so stupid with these horrible dogs. Sorry but i think rottweilers are bloody horrible.

Agree Ruty, they are revolting to look at and only seem to appeal to a certain type iykwim. I also agree that little children shouldn't be left alone with any dog, for the dogs protection as much as for the child's protection.

Do the owners of these dogs get prosecuted or do the dogs just get destroyed and that is that?

My sil bf was mauled yesterday. She's a dog groomer and went to collect the dog, it has taken most of her upper arm. Waiting to hear from sil.

smbs. Your poor sister. I don't think the owners get prosecuted usually, no.

sil, sorry.

heard this story on the news this morning - very tragic. Shocked that this could happen when we have all heard the warnings.

Oh no, Somany, how awful - I hope your SIL makes a good recovery. I do think that the owners need to be held accountable for their dog's behaviour and at least fined or made to pay the medical costs or something.

i hurd on the radio the one who did this was tied up in the yard when it happend,
do u think the reson it is grand pareents dogs could be cos they r jellouse that suddenly the grand kids r there getting all the love and they get shut out?

There is a story on the front page of our local paper of a 4 year old girl who has stitches all down her cheek, under her chin and on her neck and has had emergency surgery. She will be scarred for life. She was mauled by an Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier cross. Her grandmother, who was looking after the dog for her son, has said "He is not aggressive and does not need to be put down. She startled him and he went for her. THey are not serious injuries."

What is wrong with some people??

We're having our first baby next March. I love my doggy, but had already decided that she is never to be left alone with my LO. The owner of that staffy cross is clearly blinded by her affection for the dog. They are like members of the family, but you have to bear in mind that they are trained by us to fight their natural instincts a lot of the time.

Why put the dog in the situation where it needs to do this when so much is at stake?

If my dog hurt my child (or anyone elses) I would consider myself responsible.

Having said that [proud, smug emoticon], when my BF's DS was 1 he bit her as hard as he could on the back (and that kid bites hard). She yelped, then licked him.

there was the 2 yr odl who was attacked by his grandmothers tethered rottweiller this week too. Had to be got off using a bloody hammer FFS

It's so awful. The thing is, I've always had a relaxed attitude to dogs and I wanted ds to be that way too. However, now I find myself picking him up if we're in a park and dogs are about. I don't want him to pick up on my fear, yet at the same time I don't want him to be oblivious to their potential.

All dogs are potentially dangerous around children. My stepdaughter had her face bitten and her nose ripped halfway off by a dog when she was a toddler. The dog was a fairly small terrier mix. My dh had even asked if the dog was ok with children and the owners said yes. He found out afterwards that they had only picked the dog up a few days earlier from the pound and knew nothing about its history. As a consequence he is super paranoid when his children are around dogs and both my two have a corresponding wariness of dogs. Personally I would rather they were afraid of them and avoided them than too friendly and risking what happened to my stepdaughter.
In fact, if I see someone walking a large pit bull or similar type dog and I am with my children, I will cross the street even if the dog is on a leash (how do I know that the holder of the leash will actually be able to control that dog if it lunges).

In the case of this baby, the 14 month old, please bear in mind the dog was kept on a chain at this grandparents house and the grandparents should have been more vigilant - especially after what happened the week before with Cadey Lee in Lincolnshire...

Now, a loved family pet is not kept on a chain, therefore this dog has not been socialised with children, and does not know love. It has been kept on a chain for purposes I do not understand, but is more than likely some sort of guard dog. Dogs that are poorly treated like this will have aggression problems, most likely brought on by the way it has been treated, and it was inevitable it would bite at whomever went near it...
Therefore, the toddler should not have been allowed anywhere near it, and in this instance certainly it is NOT the dogs fault. The fault lies squarely with the grandparents for having an undersocialised 'guard' dog...

Unfortunately it seems so easy to blame the dog when in 90% of cases the fault lies with humans...

I don't think anyone is attaching moral responsibillty to the dogs - that would be ludicrous. Everyone is agreeing that dogs can be dangerous and owners should take care of their dogs. Personally I'm always surprised by the people who don't think terriers are aggressive - they were bred as rat-catchers, of course they can be aggressive! But it's the sheer size, power and aggression of breeds like rotweilers and dobermans that makes them particularly feared. Justifiably so. I'd be happy if the damn things were just banned in this country.