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Little boy has been removed from hospital by his parents

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Itsfab · 29/08/2014 13:42

He is very sick, needs constant treatment. His parents have taken him to France.

I don't understand why the hospital didn't notice or alert the police for 6 hours.

The police won't comment on the parents being Jehovah's Witnesses.

It sounds wrong when the statement said he was removed without consent. The child is theirs, should be allowed to be in charge of him, but of course it is he that will lose his life if not cared for and that isn't in his best interests necessarily.

I hope he is found and can be cured.

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plinkyplonks · 01/09/2014 11:39

You can also email the Police & Crime Commissioner, who I think is the only one who can stop this sorry mess:

plinkyplonks · 01/09/2014 11:39

Email addresS: [email protected]

www.hampshire-pcc.gov.uk/Contact/Contact-Us.aspx

GimmeMySquash · 01/09/2014 11:40

Do they own our children?

I often wonder this.

Nobody owns a child, they are on loan to their parents for 18 years. One day these children become adults, who can start asking questions and I think sometimes people forget this, parents and professionals alike.

MrsDeVere · 01/09/2014 11:40

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Itsfab · 01/09/2014 11:46

It is getting to me too, MrsD.

That poor boy alone in a foreign hospital. If he really is that sick he might die who is condemning him to spend his last weeks alone ffs.

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HoleySocksBatman · 01/09/2014 11:50

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cupofsneeze · 01/09/2014 11:51

Gimme i just heard the Czech Dr state that Ashya would be suitable for Proton treatment but they cant do anything without the authorisation of his current Drs in Britain.

What a nightmare for the family, Ashya could be treated in days if someone gives the go ahead.

Have the family got a just giving page or anything like it for people to donate?

HoleySocksBatman · 01/09/2014 11:52

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Nerf · 01/09/2014 11:58

Holeysocks, I was just stating something that would have probably happened, not the rights and wrongs of it.
I totally agree that the outcome has been terrible - based on the available facts.

DuelingFanjo · 01/09/2014 12:02

I am a bit confused about why people think the Neon Roberts case was different. The only difference was that the mother and father wanted different things but the treatment the mother was seeking i the same as in this case and was denied for the same reasons.

cupofsneeze · 01/09/2014 12:02

Thanks holey

Spero · 01/09/2014 12:05

Gimme, I don't know what can be done to stop people behaving this way. So much of our system of child protection relies on people behaving properly - noticing when something is going wrong, telling the right people who can help, giving those people the right information. If that goes wrong, the whole thing can snowball out of control very quickly.

First Rotherham, now this. Both terrible examples of what can go wrong when people just won't do their jobs properly.

Maybe the answer is greater accountability and naming more professionals. But i don't trust our media to handle that responsibly or accurately, so yet more people will be hounded out of the professions.

Then JH will get what he wants and no one will be looking out for vulnerable children. I hope he likes his brave new world.

Spero · 01/09/2014 12:07

Duelingfanjo - I thought the neon Roberts case was different because the mother wanted a therapy that wasn't promoted by any medical professional? That's why the court ruled against her? Is that wrong?

Either way, that case was very different because it was dealt with properly in the courts and Neon was in his fathers care and having contact with his mother throughout.

GimmeMySquash · 01/09/2014 12:08

I wonder if in future when the police/ss meet with Dr's they also have an other specialist advise them on the quality of the evidence from the Dr reporting CP concerns.

Hakluyt · 01/09/2014 12:08

"I am a bit confused about why people think the Neon Roberts case was different. The only difference was that the mother and father wanted different things but the treatment the mother was seeking i the same as in this case and was denied for the same reasons."

No it wasn't- the mother wanted to stop all conventional treatment and go down the alternative route. Proton beam treatment is conventional treatment

MrsDeVere · 01/09/2014 12:17

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rainbowinmyroom · 01/09/2014 12:24

Maybe if there were decent funding for paediatric cancer, more and better treatment would be available for all children with cancer, but well, silly me.

September is childhood cancer awareness month.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 01/09/2014 12:25

When I first saw this in the press my first thought was "Christ yet another stupid parent endangering their child,hope he's found soon" it took about 15 minutes for me to think hang on a second. And I only started thinking like that because no reference to an actual EPO was made and when my child was machine fed I knew it plugged in.

It's a massive manipulation,by seeking the family and evolving the police it made it appear as if they had the legal authority to do so. Now obviously the police did because they were acting on the information provided by the hospital. The vast majority of police officers on being told by a professional that a child is at risk of serious injury/illness/death right now would quite rightly react and one would hope that "child requiring a trained medic to be fed and receive life saving medical treatment has been removed" would be enough to get a reaction.

Look how many members of the public thought exactly the same thing.

I'm wondering exactly how the hospital are going to justify this manipulation.

Jossysgiants · 01/09/2014 12:28

That poor little boy and family. I hope someone has the balls now to back down- seems like the police have painted themselves into a corner.

Most confusing piece on the radio just now and the police commissioner seemed to be saying that he couldn't confirm whether a crime had to be committed for a warrant to be issued because he was not a lawyer..seems pretty fundamental to me.

Have emailed my MP.

BlackSwan · 01/09/2014 12:32

No, duellingfanjo is right. Neon's mother wanted her son to have proton, not photon (conventional) radiation. That message got completely lost in the reporting. Look it up. However, the father was happy to follow doctors orders in that case. Here the parents stand united. Having failed to get support for proton treatment, Neon's mother pursued unconventional therapies.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/09/2014 12:35

After the Czech doctor said Ashya IS suitable for proton treatment, the last fig-leaf falls away from the hospital. They are bare-arsed in the wrong.
I hope they don't force Ashya back to the UK, just to prove that parents must bow down to them... or else.

I wonder if Ashya is aware that his parents aren't with him. Poor defenceless little mite Sad

winnertakesitall · 01/09/2014 12:37

BigChoc do you have the link to the article about the Czech doctor?

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