Blair 'gone mad'

[Lambstales]

writes Boris Johnson.

This comment was about Blair's essay about Iraq.

You're wrong!

As usual!

It's the old game of divide and rule.
Sunni vs Shia and Western Ukrainians against Eastern Ukrainians. All of a sudden these clashes have come to the fore when for years there was no major problem. And of course the clashes have been funded and gophers have banged the drums and fuelled the flames.

Farage has said "No". Why is he so different to the rest? Because he is not a gopher. That's why he is Britain's most popular politician.

Yes dear
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2530796/Anger-UKIP-supporters-leader-Nigel-Farage-says-Britain-SHOULD-accept-refugees-Syria.html

Claig ..believe it or not, this thread is not about Farage, the General Election is next May, there is plenty of time for the Farage 'the Statesman' malarkys ..if he stays out of jail for not disclosing his party funding to the Uk electoral bods.

They will try anything to do him down - the greedy, guzzling gophers.

Farage was right that we should take refugees from Syria. People are dying there, being bombed and murdered by fanatic Isis and Al Qaeda lunatics and millions are living in tents. It is shameful that we are not allowing more refugees in and that we are not stopping the people who are funding Isis and Al Qaeda

"The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), now threatening Baghdad, was funded for years by wealthy donors in Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, three U.S. allies that have dual agendas in the war on terror."

Instead, we are told that Assad is the problem - the person who is fighting Al Qaeda and all the rest of the butchers.

Are you on the UKIP payroll?

Blair was popular at one point. Pretty much until Iraq.

'Are you on the UKIP payroll?'

Alas, not.

Claig ... Shia and Sunni clashes are not new (look it up), neither are wars/conflicts in Eastern Europe....no doubt you are leading to 'people's armies' and Ukip with the countries 'most popular politician' to lead us to his all-white promised land.

Politicians whether in power or opposition have to be careful what they say, as their quotes come back to bite them at inopportune times, so they can say a lot TO THOSE THAT MATTER/INVOLVED without inflammatory tones.

Nigel 'the gob' will never have more than 10-seats in the UK parliament, he can make up a manifesto in April, chuck it at the end of May. He can say we need three new train lines, then oppose HS2. NO ONE CARES WHAT HE SAYS on the political stage, but his minions, who feel that an ex investment banking oil trader/speculator, with not an ounce of political talent behind him, somehow has all the answers.

'Blair was popular at one point.'

A lot of his popularity was due to the Murdoch press who backed him. But after his "humanitarian wars", his "popularity" declined. Now, his rich friends can't restore his "popularity". Everybody knows the emperor has no clothes.

Blair's finest moment in my opinion was getting Europe involved the Serbian/Bosnia ethnic cleansing, but after the Iraq/Kuwait invasion and the West's defence - having left 'unfinished business' with Saddam, allowing him to take all his military hardware and spoils of war back along the road Iraq to Iraq without taking it out - Bush junior needed an excuse, Blair had to have a dodgy dossier of missiles as his excuse for Iraq War II.

Blair clearly misses being on the world stage, he has wealth (9 homes at the last count?), but needs to have the heavily redacted Chilcot report published to help clear his name, but it probably won't, so he is getting his version in first. If the report doesn't contradict his account too much, I'm guessing he thinks that he can wing it from there.

'Blair's finest moment in my opinion was getting Europe involved the Serbian/Bosnia ethnic cleansing'

What branch of the Tory Party do you support - the modernising, climate change fanatic, husky hugging gophers or the independent Alan Clark strand who were against the attack on Serbia?

Next you'll say that you were with Cameron and the modernisers who wanted to attack Syria - unike Nigel Farage.

Actually, I meant Blair helping re the Kosovo War and ethnic crimes. Doh.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War

With Iraq the UK went for regime change, with Syria (due to a Labour political about turn on a vote to ALLOW the West some help to the opposition) we didn't - is the situation in Syria much better?

Can you, Mr Farage, or Mr Miliband say for certain that if the West had been allowed to take out Syrian governments military hardware when it was first on the move, and maybe on an ongoing basis, that the conflict WOULD NOT have been shorter and less of a refugee crisis?

Did Mr Farage, anxious to clean up Ukip's racist act before upsetting his own fascists, say how many Syrian Christians he believed should come here e.g. more than the non specific religion Syrians in need that actually came here - or did he then shut his gob? Please qualify any answer.

P.S. Did Mr Farage and Ukip, totally against our Overseas Aid budget, applaud the Coalition's relative to other countries aid the the Syrian refugees, or was that a 'foreign' policy too far for his own party?

Claig .... re your point;
"The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), now threatening Baghdad, was funded for years by wealthy donors in Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, three U.S. allies that have dual agendas in the war on terror."

You have wealthy political donors in EVERY country, funding head-up-bottom political causes, without thinking of the consequencies.

Take Ukip (please), how many right wing Ukip backers are funding you lot, just to let in Labour in 2015? Clear proof, if a Ukip apologist needed it, that rich fools and their money are easily parted, to dodgy causes that cause a lot of 'noise'. lol

Please don't make this a thread about Mr Farage. We all know, he would sort this all out if he was in power, but they won't back him for power. The Sun backed Blair, but not Farage. The reason is that Farage is not a gopher.

"Can you, Mr Farage, or Mr Miliband say for certain that if the West had been allowed to take out Syrian governments military hardware when it was first on the move, and maybe on an ongoing basis, that the conflict WOULD NOT have been shorter and less of a refugee crisis?"

Are you kidding? Have you been listening to the gophers on TV, on Newsnight etc? Have you not seen what has happened to Libya? Do you want the same thing to happen to Syria and its people? Do you want to see the beheading butchers of Al Qaeda and Isis rule over parts of Syria if Assad, the person who is fighting them, loses to them?

"A Libyan jihadist just home from Syria was shot dead in Derna this week during a feud between rival terror groups.

The al-Battar Brigade, which is affiliated with the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), issued a statement on Monday (June 9th) saying that heads would be cut off, stomachs slit and Libya filled with graves to avenge Mahdi Saad Abu al-Abyadh al-Gaithi.

Al-Ghaithi was killed in a clash with the Abu Slim Martyrs Brigade, inflaming the conflict between the jihadist groups.

“The people of Derna are disempowered,” said Tahani Obeidi, a 28 year old housewife. “Most hope that the army enters Derna to save them from the pressure they are suffering at the hands of the terrorists.”

www.eurasiareview.com/16062014-libya-isis-menace-al-qaeda-derna/

"Assad’s enemies in Syria, whom Tony Blair’s bombing of Damascus would have helped, now threaten Iraq"

By Robert Fisk – 16 June 2014

Tony Blair tells us that Western “inaction” in Syria has produced the Iraq crisis. But since bombing Syria would have brought to power in Damascus the very Islamists who are now threatening Baghdad, it must therefore be a mercy that Barack Obama does not listen to the likes of Blair."

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/robert-fisk/assads-enemies-in-syria-whom-tony-blairs-bombing-of-damascus-would-have-helped-now-threaten-iraq-30359214.html

We all know he would sort all this out hahaha are you mad?

Here we go again impossible to debate with someone who lifts huge chunks of other peoples ideas many of which contradict each other. It spoils the discussion and goes nowhere.

'We all know he would sort all this out hahaha are you mad?'

Absolutely not! Boris implied that Blair might be, but he rightly said no such thing about Farage. The puppetmasters like Blair because he says the type of things they want. They don't like Farage because he tells the truth.

'Here we go again impossible to debate with someone who lifts huge chunks of other peoples ideas many of which contradict each other'

When Isitmebut does that, I find the best way to deal with it is to counter with facts.

Sorry? Farage would sort this out...,? Oh dear that's funny.

My first use of this on mn but are you on glue?

'Oh dear that's funny'

It was intended to add a touch of levity

'My first use of this on mn but are you on glue?'

No, I am on my second bottle of Chardonnay.

Ha! I was wondering. Have one for me too. :)

'Have one for me too'

I'll have more than one!