Drugs paraphernalia was found in peaches geldof's home *edited by MNHQ*

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House. It has been confirmed by police and on BBC website. Can't do links as on phone.

I looked back at an earlier thread. The reports of no paraphernalia seemed to be sourced to DM.

Now, I know that's the newspaper of choice for many MNetters (based on the number of times it's linked, even when other outlets are carrying a story), but this is a reminder that not all papers have the same standards in checking and verifying information. And that gaining currency in cyberspace is not the same as being true.

How do you know peaches and bob were not on speaking terms?

Peaches said so herself, I believe.

The BBC quotes the senior police officer dealing with the case thus:
"While no detail will be provided around specific items, to prevent further speculation I will confirm that contrary to rumour in the media my officers did seize drugs paraphernalia from the address on 7 April. The coroner has authorised the disclosure of this information."

My (previously addicted, now clean) sources tell me it's very hard to overdose through smoking so the paraphernalia is unlikely to have been associated with that. The same source isn't around to ask, but my guess is that if a user needed methadone, that would be precisely the opposite of recreational, so if her use was recreational then probably not. Tempting to go into speculation about the husband, but I think I'll avoid that.

The BBC also quotes the police as saying that her husband is not under any suspicion of being involved in the supply of drugs and has not been either arrested or interviewed under caution.

I can't help but consider suicide what with her posting that picture of her and her mother the day before and recent things she had talked about in the press relating to her mothers death.

One thing that really makes me curious is why the younger boy was taken back on the Sunday by her father in law, if it was routine for the boys to stay at their grandparents all weekend and their own father was there as well.

I don't understand why.

Surely If she'd planned it she would have made sure the baby stayed at her inlaws. I don't know :(

I doubt the husband knew, his Dad is a social worker and brought one child to Peaches, the baby who was found with her.

I gather she was hiding the methodone use from her DF and DH.

Different people live different lives, so what if the children spent three days a week at the Grandparents house. It turned out quite good for the children in the long run, they have somewhere to live with people who have been constant for them.

It sounds like the house will need to be sold, they were struggling with their income as it was apparently.

All so very sad.

I thought this all along. The newspapers kept repeating, "Police have refused to confirm or deny reports that no drug paraphernalia were found at the scene."

Now, that's odd, isn't it? First of all, where did those "reports" come from? None of the papers said, but presumably someone who was there - either the family or possibly a police officer or paramedic.

Second, if it was true that no drug paraphernalia were found, why wouldn't police just confirm it? The fact that they refused to confirm it suggests that they did find drug paraphernalia.

The other thing that strikes me is that someone was feeding the papers an awful lot of misinformation about what happened, such as the story about the neighbour/friend raising the alarm or Peaches being with the baby all weekend.

Sharon Ive been thinking exactly the same thing.

The press seem to be going after any informant at the moment, even random members of the public on trains.

It's all so sad. I can't help thinking the children of the rich and famous are born to incredible disadvantage which takes enormous strength of character to overcome. We can all moan about our lot but I think the necessity to make something of yourself in the world is a very good driver for most of us.

They're born with a different disadvantage to the average person, certainly. So much money, same fallible human temperament as anybody else.

And yes, I agree Peaches' death is terribly sad. As would anyone of her age death would be.

For the poster who said that it is not possible to OD when smoking heroin: it is. You remind me of a friend who asserted that it was impossible to become addicted when smoking. I think these two myths go hand in hand with the one about not getting pregnant if you have sex standing up.

I had assumed bob and peaches fell out because she was using. No idea where I've come up with that though.

Could the FIL have taken Phaedra back so as to stop peaches using that day? Maybe thinking she wouldn't dare use with her baby there?

Obviously speculation.

Poor kid.

Would an experienced social worker (as the FIL is) do that?

It's all awfully sad.

I can't understand how someone who was fairly open about the pain they felt about their own mothers desth chilled risk inflicting that on her own children.

I'm not for one second suggesting a conspiracy but is so terribly sad that Peaches seems to have done to her children what her mother did to her.

What a tragic end to a young life and I feel so sorry for her two babies.

its awful

I think he knew, my dh wouldn't come and check on me if I didn't answer my phone. he'd assume I was out and it was on silent.

I have assumed that the boys and the husband went to stay with grandparents because she was writing. Then perhaps because she missed the baby he was bought back but the no doubt lively toddler stayed away. From the accounts of the husband finding the baby elsewhere in the house it is clear she was not using the drugs with him around. I suspect she'd put him to bed and gone in to the other room to use the drug before going to bed herself. It's very tragic. Had the grandparents or the father anticipated this I am sure they would not have returned the baby. I think they probably had no idea.

I don't understand why it makes a difference which room the baby was in. After taking the drugs how would she have been in a fit state to look after her if she woke or there was an accident?

I really find it very hard to believe that people around her had no idea. Look at how drastically her appearance had changed

I think maybe the gps speculated about her usage, and stepped in on a regular basis to help with demanding toddler to protect him and to give Peaches a break. However maybe they thought the baby would be ok and asleep for much of the time, and couldn'tjustify taking him/her too. I also find it odd (but fortunate, in the event) that the gps were so closely involved on a regular basis and that the husband was out of the house a lot, considering the pair were recently married.

I think it interesting that apparently Paula Yates, according to Peaches, used drugs to "self-medicate", suggesting that using was sort of an acceptible way of making oneself feel better. Maybe she followed the same path: her mother used, so why shouldn't she?
I don't believe in the "addictive personality" hypothesis either: apparently Paula only started using when she met Michael Hutchence, I understand.