OMG!!! wtf is wrong with people- why???

[tiredemma]

just seen this on SKY.

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can you give us a brief outline of the story? Is it very harrowing?

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oh fuck. yes it is, suzy.

4 yr old boy tied up and attacked by youth with a brick.

sorry should have put warning in title....

I just heard this on the radio. It's another in a long line of depressing stories in the news recently isn't it. Like the three girls getting stabbed as they got off a bus.

unprovoked attack on 4 year old by ?teenagers leaving him with his ear badly injured.

This is horrific. The youth who did this is obviously extremely disturbed and not safe to be let out alone.

How awful. That poor little boy. Some people are so evil

heard it on radio - dreadful , poor little chap

that's so awful makes me feel sick what one earth possesses someone to do that. haven't they found the boy yet who did it?

I think I heard on the news that a local youth had been arrested

omg, thats just too horrible. how could any human being do that to a child?!

Is sick, really! which we were not so lenient about under age offences. I'm sure this is not the guy's first attack.

I'm appalled at how much some teenagers are allowed to do with. We had a problem once with a 8-10 year old, the police arrived and the kid was as though as an experienced criminal, no way to make him tell the names of his friends (also involved) and he just kept repeating "you can't do anything to me because I'm not old enough" and he was right.

Police told me as soon as he left that they were hand tied, only the parents could do something about that behaviour. Guess we are responsible for all our creations being a bomb or such a kid! (as a famous Nobel prize winner once said)

which? wish! (second time in a day... I'm starting to worry...)

I wish we'd stop treating attacks like this as purely social crimes, for which a young offender's institute/ prison is the appropriate punishment. The youth who has done this, needs intensive work to ensure that when he gets released, he doesn't do it or something similar or worse, again. Unfortunately our prison system just isn't geared up to that. It is utterly primitive in how it approaches this sort of crime imo.

Problem is they have to had a very long story of crimes before the authorities could do something about it. There was a kid in our city that once only "reprimanded " when he got more than 50 mid to severe ofences. So, they banned him from the city and paid for his accomodation in a nearish town. Problem with that is the poor people in the town didn't now about the nightmare that was moving nearly sponsorised by the beautiful City of York council, the kid killed a SN man in less than 2 months!

So... although I agree prisons are not the ideal environments, some way they would allow some safety for the unsuspecting people living outside them.

50!

parp.

im still reeling over james bulger.

Sadly 50 precons is not that high a figure for people in prison! I was shocked when first saw it, but not any more. Seen much higher.

Once in priosn there are some very good courses to deal with violent offenders. However they can only take a limited number of prisoners on each course and they last several weeks. This means many who are deemed suitable for the course don't get to do the course before they are released. Some have it attached to their license conditions on release but not all. And it is harder to manage outside. The prisons need the facilities and resources to run more of these courses...staff to start with.

Fuller report here but don't read if you don't want the detailed stuff . Latest reports say there is no brain damage thankfuly.

This is local to me and I hadn't heard about it until I saw this thread. I used to live about 500 yards from the wasteland where they found him.

bollocks-prisons are like bloody holiday camps,thats why ppl keep going back!i have known many ppl who have been in prison,and thats what they say about them.these teenagers dont need 'courses',they need to be taught a lesson.hand them over to the boy's parents and let them do the same back.

I'm sorry but if it was my little one lying in a hospital bed to terrified to speak after having had that done to him, its more than contructive recovery I'd be asking for. No doubt the person resposnsible will come up in front of an ancient semi pissed judge still living in the dark ages who'll give him a slapped wrists. This person is not normal and should be kept off the streets for life. I just don't believe that people responsible for crimes such as this can ever be any different. Hmmmm think its touched a sore spot much????!!!!!

divastrop - I do know what it is like in a prison. I go to one every week. I agree that things need to be tougher, but at present have no idea how that can be achieved. If people want prisoners to go through programmes to address reoffending behaviour, then there has to be more resources and staffing - but, at the same time, people don't want their tax money going into prisons to help prisoners. At present education in prisons can only do so much. It is also want happens before and after prison that is crucial.

But part of this reaction is like the one to jamie bulger which was all about evil and judging. It is of course understandable but doesnt help prevent this kind of horrific crime. Locking people away has never been a good answer to rpevention or cure for that matter. Perhaps a distinction should be made as to whether there is simply a punishment or whether we are really interested in stopping things like this happening and sorting out why teenagers and children like in the Bulger case behave in this way.

Would an 11yr old who does this not show any signs of strange behavior before this?