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Missing Malaysian Airlines MH-370 - Thread 6

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member · 27/03/2014 09:31

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member · 05/04/2014 14:15

Apparently only heard for 1.5 minutes though, also heard yesterday?! Not sure what to think

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BoiledPiss · 05/04/2014 14:22

Oh my goodness, i hope this is it

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member · 05/04/2014 14:25

Correction to above - 4 "pings" heard in a 15 minute period a/c to James Chau CCTV

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funnyperson · 05/04/2014 14:29

I wonder who gets the black box? the people who find it or malaysian airlines or the fbi or china?

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member · 05/04/2014 14:42

I believe there has been an agreement that anything physical found will be brought to Australia & an International Team of investigators will work there to try and re-construct what happened.

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TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 05/04/2014 14:46

It's interesting that the Chinese ship heard the pings when it has been the Australian ship towing the pinger and the UK ship described as having similar technology.

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member · 05/04/2014 14:57

Quite, not sure if the JACC even knew the chinese ship had that capability! Also not quite sure why ship in question is in an area north of the search planned for today anyway?

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mileysorearse · 05/04/2014 16:11

I imagine the Chinese are deeply suspicious of any investigation other than their own so they are probably working their own end too.

funnyperson · 05/04/2014 20:25

It would be very restrained of whoever found it to not listen to anything until the 'international team' had gathered. Especially as it might take days for a ship to get back to Australia.

JKSLtd · 05/04/2014 20:29

Not sure how easy it is to 'listen' to?
Even to open up somehow and then it's hardly going to have a play button !
Might need software or something that's not on the ship.
Esp as that ship apparently isn't equipped to find it?

And will that ship be the one picking it up? Or will some sort of submarine have to go down?

Jumping the gun somewhat I guess as no-one has even confirmed it is the box, or where it is exactly.

AchyFox · 05/04/2014 21:53

Presumably the Chinese recorded the pings.

So it should be straightforward to analyse the recording.

But there is nothing in the media about a recording.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 05/04/2014 21:56

No, they have stated they didn't record them as they were taken by surprise.

Remember the ship wasn't in the search area and isn't one of the official black box towers.

allisgood1 · 05/04/2014 21:58

I read that they did record it the second time. The first time it was too short and they were caught off guard. What is going to happen now? Will they launch a submarine to get it? Or how will they get it?? News isn't revealing that info.

AnyaKnowIt · 05/04/2014 22:00

So do the Chinese now more then they are letting on?

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 05/04/2014 22:08

" A reporter with the Chinese state broadcaster, CCTV, who is on board Haixun, said the ship had first picked up the signal on Friday, when pings were detected intermittently for about 15 minutes. But other vessels were in the vicinity, raising the possibility that they might have been the source.

Haixun then heard the signal again on Saturday, when the pings were picked up every second for 90 seconds.

Objects floating in the sea, which may have been wreckage, were also photographed by a Chinese reconnaissance aircraft about 60 miles from where Haixun detected the pings.

Haixun is a patrol and survey ship operated by the China Coast Guard. Weighing 5,400 tonnes and with a length of 430ft, the vessel is capable of conducting search, rescue and survey missions thousands of miles from its home base. "

from the Telegraph. Nothing about recording.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 05/04/2014 22:09

I imagine that they may send one of the other ships to verify but I am not sure how long it will take to get there.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 05/04/2014 22:41

Guardian arttcile seems quite good
www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/05/mh370-chinese-patrol-ship-detects-pulse-signal

TheHoneyBadger · 06/04/2014 07:41

from watching american news it sounds like everyone is extremely cautious about taking this seriously because the chances of accidentally picking up this signal are astronomically unlikely in terms of probability.

they're relocating better searchers to that area i believe but are trying not to sound optimistic and they keep on stressing this 'the battery could have gone before they get there' business. the whole '30 days' business is still being pedaled without any 'it can last longer' and in fact on usa news they seem to be stressing 'it can run out sooner'.

the idea that a ship that isn't specialised, wasn't searching, didn't have debris to go by etc could just pick up the signal (for which they'd have to be literally over the top of it in that area of the ocean due to depth) in a body of water that size sounds incredibly far fetched when you listen to experts who have conducted search operations.

TheHoneyBadger · 06/04/2014 07:43

also as of last night no one official had reported this - this was a journalist who happened to be on the ship spilling the news to their news agency and there had been no official statement from the ship or authorities to verify it.

JKSLtd · 06/04/2014 08:51

And now Sky is saying the Australians picked up an acoustic 'event ' about 350miles away. Can't both be the same box.
Obvious q: are the fdr & cvr in the same case? Or could they be separated in a crash and send separate pings?

helzapoppin2 · 06/04/2014 09:07

This is so interesting. If not a black box, what else is under the sea sending out acoustic signals?

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 06/04/2014 09:07

There's been an official statement from the search coordinator. I think the British ship is heading towards the Chinese one (will take 14h) and the Australian ship is further investigating what it heard (the oz ship would take more than 30h to get to the chinese one)

TheHoneyBadger · 06/04/2014 10:01

scientists have been saying they put lots of equipment in the ocean and attach pingers that use that frequency so that it can be located later helza.

funnyperson · 06/04/2014 17:08

I suspect the Chinese have been doing their own mathematical calculations on whatever data is available: they have some clever mathematicians in that country: and IT knowledge capable of getting data analysed: and therefore didn't I dont think they heard the pings in the place where they were by chance at all, they were looking there, and they may have their own pinger detectors they wouldn't necessarily have told anyone else about. They may not, of course.
In addition there is the fact that the current mathematical models are not set in stone and could vary by things like wind speed and aircraft speed and currents and so forth and there fore it made sense for the Chinese to be searching in a slightly different place.
In addition there is more likely to be the risk of false alarms in the place where Australia's flotsam will naturally end up which is what seems to have occurred so far.
I so want the plane to be found and to know why and how it went down, and for it to be preventable. I am clutching at any straw and feel for the families who have lost loved ones: how much more up and down must they be for every little piece of information. It is interesting that on all the news sites, news about the plane gets the most hits so this has struck a chord the world over.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 06/04/2014 19:56

Hms echo has arrived in the area.