Missing Malaysian Airlines MH-370 - Thread 6

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No, it was cursed by the ghost crew of the Mary Celeste. It will be found in 100 years' time, inexplicably embedded in the Himalayas. And then a space ship will go missing without trace ... ...

I think you'll find that it's actually on the TARDIS

Someone else with concerns about the unavailability of the full Inmarsat data

One of the things thats become clear, unfortunately, is just how difficult it is to draw any firm conclusions from the ping data. Even the confident assertion by the Malaysian prime minister that the northern route had been ruled out seems, on closer inspection, to be a fairly rickety claim. What Inmarsat actually said in its analysis was that if one assumed that the plane maintained a steady speed, then a straight-ahead course on the southern arc more nearly matched the ping data than a similar course to the north. But we already know that before it disappeared the plane was changing speeds and flying a zigzag course. (Indeed, to get to the southern Indian Ocean, MH370 would have had to do an about-face from its last known course; if it had followed a straight-ahead track, it would have wound up in Kazakhstan.) The evidence that the Malaysian prime minister cited as justification for telling passengers families that all hope has been lost was really just the output of a model into which an assumption had been fed. Or perhaps theres more to it than thatwe just dont know, because neither Inmarsat nor the Malaysian authorities will share their full data or show their work.

Miley :)

any theory is fair game at the moment

which does not mean that all theories are equally credible.

I've fancied Kazakhstan as a potential hijack destination ever since we heard the plane headed north. It's full of rock plateaux like this. (Disclaimer: I've been fascinated by Kazakhstan from childhood!)

Second picture is a different region, near Tyuratam where the Vostock space programme was founded.

On radio 4 now. 10,000 containers apparently floating in that part of the sea!!

Whole 30 min programme but I've only just put it in.

at containers (as in shipping containers??)

Does anybody know what the position is regarding an interim report on MH370's disappearance?

As I understand it, if it was in the UK, an interim report would be published 30 days after the incident to bring the industry/public up to date. Not sure if this is an International Air Accident standard?

Containers are ocean crap :(

Woe.

"shipping companies do not have to report lost containers when they go overboard, despite the fact that they constitute a hazard to other vessels"

[shakes head]

But what about the people who own these containers, do they not have to be informed if their one ends up overboard :/ Id be raging if my stuff never turned up where it was expected and it had not been reported to have gone overboard!

Guess it must be mass cargo - with a certain amount written off in transit - rather than personal goods being shipped home/abroad.

But still...

Insurance I guess?

It is appalling though.

No news reports at all today

Blimey, it's a pilferer's paradise, isn't it? "It fell off the back of a ship, guv, honest. I was just doin' me civic duty, like, can't have it littering the seaways, now, can we? Good citizen, I am, officer, you ask anyone round here."

Today was the first day i checked CNN and saw nothing :( Looks like the media are giving up hope like myself

It is possible to identify exactly what is in each container, so if there are some missing on arrival, they can work out what it is they've lost.

Many of them sink immediately due to their heavy contents. Others will sink after they become waterlogged. Some do float for a while and if spotted will be reported so that vessels know to keep more of a look out.

Some do break open. There's quite a famous one involving a cargo of rubber ducks. They're now being used to help chart ocean currents.

The Friendly Floatees

Thanks, I didn't know that about the ducks.

There was a little mention on R4 just now about today's search with the ping ship (I think?) narrowed down to a 150 mile radius which I found odd as how have they reduced it to that small an area? Needed to have listened more careful but running around like a loon trying to get out of the door!

That's their highest probability bit but it's also the max size of the area for one day - if they don't find it there they will move in to another area of the same size tomorrow.

(It is on the bbc website)

Its headline back on sky news this morning

news.sky.com/