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Missing Malaysian Airlines MH-370 - Thread 6

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member · 27/03/2014 09:31

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AnyaKnowIt · 01/04/2014 22:08
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TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 01/04/2014 22:11

"It's also true that, having been so recently awarded the patent, they are the only people who know how to do it."

Um, not necessarily.

GarlicAprilShowers · 01/04/2014 22:14

As soon as I hit Send on that, I found a new tin foil hat!
Here's what it's telling me (via conspiracy waves, obv.)

What if the Bin Ladens became Carlyle Group's best financial friend, specifically in order to form contacts within the group? Then what if, after liquidating their holdings, they used some of those funds to support the research into nano-systems and/or to fund an information flow on progress? A long-term plan, therefore, with the intention of stealing a march on the rest of the world with weird cyber-weaponry. Some of the Freescale team may have been in on it, or they may have been stolen for their knowledge.

I don't actually see this as beyond the realms of possibility. I do, however, need some baking foil this evening so my hat will have to be re-purposed for now.

GarlicAprilShowers · 01/04/2014 22:15

YY, Doctrine, the patent will tell you how to do it (if you understand that stuff!)

But you'd still need the expertise.

GarlicAprilShowers · 01/04/2014 22:16

Can I come & share your life, when you get one? I'm making chocolate cake!

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 01/04/2014 22:21

Mmm, cake...

I like your new name.

I just think that there will be other people at the same company or who could be hired from Unis or whatever who could get up to speed on the methodologies pretty quickly. Plus if the patent has recently been granted (not sure in which jurisdictions) the stuff in it was actually invented 1-3 years ago.

GarlicAprilShowers · 01/04/2014 22:25

Good, I really want it to be nothing to do with Al-Qaeda.
The fact that a bunch of micro-tech wizards were all on the plane may be no more significant than planes going down with rock bands or football teams on board.

Thank you!

claig · 01/04/2014 22:34

Daily Express says the patent holders were not on the plane's manifest

www.express.co.uk/news/world/465557/Malaysian-plane-20-on-board-worked-for-ELECTRONIC-WARFARE-and-radar-defence-company

There are other conspiracies about the Freescale technology. You can google for it and look at some of the established conspiracy sites.

claig · 01/04/2014 22:35

Quote from the Express is

"However, the absurd theory does not add up.

Although a Freescale patent does exist under number US8650327, none of the names listed actually appear on the passenger manifest released by the Malaysian authorities."

GarlicAprilShowers · 02/04/2014 00:15

The Express quoted the wrong patent. But no passengers were named on the two patents granted on the 11th March, either!

DieselSpillage · 02/04/2014 08:04

www.duncansteel.com/archives/507

Valid sounding theory based on Inmarsat's pings suggesting that the plane could have gone North ...

DieselSpillage · 02/04/2014 08:12

www.duncansteel.com/archives/507

forgot to convert the link !

Inmarsat has been less than forthcoming with the data obtained from the pings from its satellite; in fact it has been outright obstructive, which is inexcusable in a situation such as this.

mileysorearse · 02/04/2014 08:29

I'm confused now. If the plane was hijacked and flown to DG, which has american military presence, then who kidnapped the Freescale people for the patent? It can't be the americans as they already have it, and it can't be AQ as its an american base. Or have I missed something?

nauticant · 02/04/2014 08:47

When the lawsuits really get motoring (there are reports they've started already) I wouldn't be surprised to see Inmarsat get sued. Maybe something along the lines of not coming up with an exact correct answer first thing thus causing emotional distress to the victims' families.

I doubt they'll have done anything wrong but they're there to be sued because they, well, they're simply there. In a no-good-deed-goes-unpunished kind of way.

mileysorearse · 02/04/2014 08:58

I thought that Malaysia Airlines didn't subscribe to the Rolls Royce monitoring service though, and the only reason that the pings were recorded is that RR collect the engine data anyway. If that is the case I don't see how a company can be sued under these conditions as there is no actual contract. I could be wrong though, it was quite some time ago that I read about RR.

member · 02/04/2014 09:12

Police Chief Khalid Bakar has made a statement here

It's in Malay & the online translators I've found are a bit rubbish.

Gist seems to be that all 227 passengers have been found "clean" regarding the four possible motives/scenarios that police are investigating. Investigations into pilot/co-pilot & rest of crew ongoing. To date, 170 individuals spoken to. Malay police will not be releasing any details until investigations complete as partial info may prejudice investigation.

Not sure if he means until the police investigations complete or the investigation into MH370's disappearance as a whole.

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TheHoneyBadger · 02/04/2014 09:20

hi - i had a friend here for the weekend and then i've been reading crazy stuff 'out there' on the net. it goes from madness to madness and god knows what to think anymore.

the girlfriend of phillip wood and her appearances on msm all over the place throw real confusion into things - seeing her cited as proof of conspiracy and revealing it by some but also seeing her being seen as part of the conspiracy and a shill and part of the plan for false flag stuff Confused

the whole israeli embassy business is freaky too whether it's connected or not.

like garlic i've done lots of reading on the freescale technology involved and the ownership of patents and companies. the levels of technology possible and in the hands of military and shady companies is freaky enough without disappearing airplanes.

i joked to my friend this weekend that i was suddenly quite glad to be living in a massively insignificant place rather than the more exciting and vibrant locations of my 20's.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 02/04/2014 09:29

Once more, with feeling...

It isn't up to Inmarsat to release its data. It is up to the Malaysians.

singersgirl · 02/04/2014 09:48

If you really wanted to kidnap someone for their patent I can think of many ways that would be more efficient than hijacking a plane Hmm

TheElementsSong · 02/04/2014 10:12

I've translated the statement, member...

Police have found that all passengers on the missing Malaysian flight were “clean” of elements of seizure (?), sabotage and psychological or personal problems, but are continuing investigations into the crew including pilot and co-pilot, said the Chief of National Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar.

He said that investigations into the 227 passengers of MH370 found they were “free” of those four elements.

“They were found clear of those four (elements). This is following our own procedures (investigations),” he said to hournalists after formalizing a seminar for maintaining the quality of police teams here today.

He added that the police are still carrying our investigations based on the four elements regarding the crew including the pilot and co-pilot.

Khalid said that, to date, police have recorded statements from more than 170 individuals connected with the disappearance of the Boeing 777-200 and following this, the police will record even more statements.

Khalid said that the police will not be revealing any details resulting from investigations into this incident because this could jeopardize the ongoing investigation.

“I apologise, there are things that we cannot reveal to you; not because I don’t want to reveal them to you but because we cannot do so. Because this is a criminal investigation which is ongoing; we have not confirmed everything and are still waiting for reports from experts overseas and within the country.”

“You must understand. I think we have been very consistent (in this investigation). Who knows, maybe there may be prosecutions later. Therefore, it would jeopardize the prosecutor’s case if we start revealing the results of our investigation,” he said.

YNK · 02/04/2014 11:33

The Express article says the remaining patentholder is Freescale, but I read elsewhere that it was Jacob Rothschild!

Does anyone know which is correct?

allisgood1 · 02/04/2014 12:06

It means nothing that those peoples backgrounds came up clean. There's a first time for everything. According to my army solider cousin, there were 20+ people who were all involved in High tech government work. A terrorist or terrorist group won't necessarily be forthcoming right now if the disappearance of this plane was only a small part of their bigger plan. I don't know if that plane is in the ocean, but every day that goes by with no leads (and over the past 2 days there have been no reports of the search process) leads me to further doubt that it is. I do think everyone not involved (the actual innocent people) have sadly been killed.

YNK · 02/04/2014 12:33

I think if gaining control of/experimenting with cybertechnology capable of radar blocking or remote flight control is anything to do with it, then the intention is to avoid detection at all cost. I don't think any trace of evidence will ever be found, sadly for the innocents on board!

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 02/04/2014 13:01

" I don't know if that plane is in the ocean, but every day that goes by with no leads (and over the past 2 days there have been no reports of the search process) "

I don't understand the thinking here. The ocean is precisely the most difficult place to find the plane. If the search clock was set as at seven days ago and a probability was estimated of finding the plane within seven days within a search area the size of Poland, allowing for flying time, cloud cover etc, the probability of finding it would be less than 50%, I'm sure, probably a lot less.

nauticant · 02/04/2014 13:28

You could look at it in terms of what is the total area of sea/ocean within flying range and what is the total area of runaway pavement within flying range, and then figure out which location looks more likely as a final destination.

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