Missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Thread 5

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Loopy I really hope neither pilot was at fault too, for the sake of their families. I also think that they'll probably never know - unless they find evidence of foul play.

Not sure I can accept an explanation from a so called expert if he can't even get the name of the country right!

yes, wannaBe very well put...

it may not have been suicide though who knows. A pilot could have any number of agendas with a plane...

It's unlikely the truth will ever be known beyond that the plane was diverted and flown off course and then crashed probably because it ran out of fuel because the blac box only provides the last two hours worth of information...

Given that there has been no reporting of any suspect passengers or knowledge of passengers with suspicious motives (and given that e.g. the passengers with stolen passports were revealed and clarified pretty early on it stands to reason that other suspicious passengers would have been revealed in time even if by the press) I think the assumption will always remain that the fate of this plane was down to pilot motivated actions....

michonnes - that's an interesting theory... perhaps that explains the emphasis on 'never before used' calculations ie they wouldn't release this so soon after plane went missing as it was experimental so waited until either found debris (if they have) or until it was clearly impossible for anyone to have survived??? Ugh.

Good point Artic

Blimey I've just dipped back to Sky News (after saying I wouldn't)

Reporter is saying that many of the relatives cannot read English, so to be called to a briefing, then receive a message from the Malaysian PM that you cannot read is quite staggering. Lots of anger there.

Also saying that many of these people don't have passports, so they're not sure how they can fly them to Oz. I did wonder that, how they would deal with immigration etc, or do they waive such rules in circumstances like this?

"I really hope neither pilot was at fault too, for the sake of their families." Thing is, someone diverted that plane and whoever it was did it deliberately. And whoever it was has a family too... iyswim.

I think it's probably worse if it's never known what happened and so if it's assumed to be a specific individual the family of whoever it is will never truly know whether their loved one was responsible....

If it was pilot suicide what, if anything could the co-pilot have done? surely he would have realised they'd gone off course, noticed things had been turned off. I can't imagine he'd just sit there for 7 hours (after the last contact) and not have done anything.

I also looked at the pilots facebook page and from the photo's he'd posted he looked so...normal if that makes sense he wasnt trying to hide the fact he had a simulator and he had a photo of a few men with remote control helicopters so I just think he loved flying and everything about it. I also feel he'll become the scapegoat. I admit though I'm not always a good judge of character so I could be totally wrong and he was in fact, a suicidal, homocidal maniac.

Text message was in Chinese too, apparently

sky news is like watching the daily mail live. It's full of hacks who report every snippet as fact regardless of where it comes from and make up the rest... and who employs Kay Burley... nuff said.

Text message was in Chinese too, apparently Oh ok, in that case the Sky news guy was talking total bollocks again then. That will teach me to watch them!

Sticking to BBC now, can't bear the images of screaming people

text, in both languages

I do wonder whether there's any significance to the remoteness of the location - they keep saying it's as remote as could possibly be.

Exactly the sort of place that you would aim your plane if you wanted it to crash without trace.

Thanks Loopy - so yes, the Sky news reporter was just making stuff up to fill airtime.

How can it be too soon to launch a submarine?

Right, I'm off to bed. Sad day tomorrow. :(

Thanks for your insights Loopy and I'm so sorry for you and your friends.

well, if the pilot was intent on suicide and intent on taking another 137 passengers with him then he could probably easily have killed/disabled the co pilot at the point he diverted the plane...

Once he'd done that there would be very little anyone would be able to do.

hadn't thought of that WannaBe but yes I suppose you are right.

well, if the pilot was intent on suicide and intent on taking another 137 passengers with him then he could probably easily have killed/disabled the co pilot at the point he diverted the plane

Or vice versa - co-pilot could have done the same.

Which, to be honest, from the families point of view, is probably better than knowing for sure that your loved one was responsible. Better to never know the truth, if that is what the truth is...

I don't know, just find the whole thing so very upsetting for everyone involved.

My heart goes out to the relatives. I haven't watched any footage of them, but we should remember that in some cultures a very public expression of emotion and grief is normal and almost "expected". British culture tends to see grief as something private, so it is shocking and very intrusive-feeling to us to see big displays of emotion.

Too soon to launch underwater searches because they haven't narrowed down the search area enough

I wonder if it turns out to be a cyber hijacking will they try and cover it up? Could have a huge impact on air travel if people found out it had been cyber hijacked.

We presumably won't know any details until the black box is recovered. The plane was deliberately taken off course so many questions yet to be answered.