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Missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Thread 5

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KenAdams · 21/03/2014 01:20

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MichonnesSamuraiSword · 24/03/2014 14:33

I must say that I was quite surprised that the PM conducted an emergency press conference merely to state that they had confirmed the location.

I also thought his words regarding Immarsat and techniques never before used was strange, but perhaps just a clumsy way of dealing with it.

Odd that, if the Aussie pilots / search vessels have indeed found something, which it seems they might - that the PM didn't refer to that at all, and didn't wait for that hard evidence before calling this press conference.

Whoateallthecheese · 24/03/2014 14:33

Probably because it would have run out of fuel at that point, and couldn't have landed anywhere.

MichonnesSamuraiSword · 24/03/2014 14:35

Reporter from Bejing saying that relatives still feel that there is something the govt aren't telling them.

Also said that this whole incident may have diplomatic impacts between China and Malaysia, in that China have been angered at how Malaysia have dealt with it.

I've been surprised that China didn't just take over the search co-ordination to be honest. But I suppose that's not how these things work.

Apatite1 · 24/03/2014 14:36

They're now reporting that the debris in the Indian Ocean is MH370. They've given this news to the relatives now. Very very sad.

EverythingIsAwesome · 24/03/2014 14:38

Where did you read that Apatite1? Not on Sky news yet.

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 24/03/2014 14:38

such sad, but not unexpected, news - my thoughts are with the families

Apatite1 · 24/03/2014 14:39

It's on sky news right now.

EverythingIsAwesome · 24/03/2014 14:40

Im watching Sky news and they are still saying the debris is not confirmed.

LoopyDoopyDoo · 24/03/2014 14:41

Did I imagine the BBC guy saying that Immarsat have been trying to persuade the government of this information for a long time?

Burmahere · 24/03/2014 14:41

I wouldn't believe Sky.

BBC news 24 reporting that it is all to do with the satellite data not the actual debris.

So sad even though it was totally expected, poor families and friends Sad.

SunnySon · 24/03/2014 14:41

Aww, reports now saying that mh370 beyond reasonable doubt ended up in southern Indian Ocean and all passengers are lost. Such a sad ending, I'm sure many relitives were still holding on to hope. Hopefully they will get some answers at least.

PartyPoison · 24/03/2014 14:41

That's how I heard it Loopy.

Apatite1 · 24/03/2014 14:42

I don't think they'd tell the relatives there were no survivors unless the evidence is conclusive. We haven't been told how they've reached this conclusion.

LoopyDoopyDoo · 24/03/2014 14:42

Bloody hell. Why am I not surprised?

wannaBe · 24/03/2014 14:43

iced just because the exact evidence hasn't yet been presented to the media doesn't mean there isn't any. The malasians aren't accountable to the public at large to present the evidence so that our suspicions can be put to rest. If there was any perceived danger e.g. terrorism alerts would be increased, airline security would be increased, even if it had been a perceived threat steps would be taken to safeguard the public.

People are turning this into some massive conspiracy on the basis that it's taken a couple of weeks to find the plane... But what people seem to forget is that usually when a plane goes down there is some sort of communication from the cockpit to indicate that something is wrong, or a very definite indication that it's gone down e.g. plane shown plunging on radar so the search area is reasonably well defined from the outset.

I think the only reason why this is being kept reasonably low key in terms of what is being presented is because we all want to think that when we get on to a plane the pilot is there doing his job, and the thought that the pilot could actually have his own agenda and could willingly fly us into the unknown and plunge us all into the sea either by fault or by design would terrify a lot of people and potentially have a negative impact on the airline industry. Because it's a lot harder to know whether a pilot is a loose cannon than it is to tighten actual airline security to ensure a plane can't be highjacked...

MichonnesSamuraiSword · 24/03/2014 14:44

Did I imagine the BBC guy saying that Immarsat have been trying to persuade the government of this information for a long time? - but they've been searching in this area for a long time, so surely they knew?

I still can't believe that we don't already have the technology to track all planes at all times.

LoopyDoopyDoo · 24/03/2014 14:44

If I heard correctly, the bloke on BBC said that Immarsat told them this info the Wednesday after it went missing, but the MY govt. refused to accept it until they redid all the analysis. If that is right, they have every reason to be angry.

Burmahere · 24/03/2014 14:45

Totally agree with wannaBe

LoopyDoopyDoo · 24/03/2014 14:45

Not that long a time. Not since the first Wednesday, that's for sure. If there had been survivors...

Bahhhhhumbug · 24/03/2014 14:46

I feel very uncomfortable with the zooming in on the absolutely hysterical relative outside after just been told the news. Awful to watch and my immediate reaction was to ask if this was really necessary but in another way it sounds as though she does want to be heard and if she does feel she has a grievance and this is not just anger being one of the stages of grief, then maybe this is one way of making sure her beliefs aren't brushed under the carpet. Very very sad , heartbreaking. I used to be a 999 operator many years ago and the cries of one distraught mother will never leave me , it is the worst sound in the world.

MichonnesSamuraiSword · 24/03/2014 14:47

To be honest, I find the pilot suicide theory one of the least frightening theories - because it's so rare and they can learn from this and put safeguards in place for future.

LoopyDoopyDoo · 24/03/2014 14:47

I still refuse to believe it was the fault of either pilot until there is evidence of that. I have friends who work for MAS, who have found this thousands of times harder with that sort of speculation. We really can't conclude that at this stage.

TheArticFunky · 24/03/2014 14:51

He said the Indonesian government refused to accept the information. Was that a slip of the tongue ?

MichonnesSamuraiSword · 24/03/2014 14:51

Immarsat told them this info the Wednesday after it went missing god if that's true, that's pretty bad.

Perhaps they've only released the Immarsat 'confirmation' now that they have found debris and realized immarsat must have been right all along so they can no longer dispute it?

Bah that's why I turned off Sky changed to BBC. Can't stand them exploiting grieving relatives for the sake of a good news story.

LoopyDoopyDoo · 24/03/2014 14:52

Yes, I assumed 'Indonesian' was a mistake. Maybe not Confused