Missing Malaysia Air plane

[KenAdams]

It's so sad. They still haven't found anything, but thinks it's crashed into the sea.

For anyone that hasn't heard

Oh hahaha what a twat i am

X posts as well but yes was going to say stimulator is a whole other world of meaning

Ive just read the previous page thinking everyone was saying it wrong, nope just me then

I'm actually crying with laughter at my own stupidity

at public

public and

I did that once on a motorbike...I was going out one evening, and thought how funny, it must be some new retro craze, all the cars coming towards me have yellow headlights like in 1982!

Only realised once I got to the pub that I was wearing yellow goggles.

I'm so stupid sometimes I wonder how I made it to 40 without falling down a manhole.

How embarrassing. Even more so at my 'whats funny, that's what its called isn't it' post

Easy mistake though, there's only a letter difference :)

public you have brightened up an otherwise very dull morning

Unlikely that they will have anything to go on re data or calls from passengers mobile phones - if foul play is involved I would expect a phone jammer to be used on board. The reported ringing is a red herring.

Passengers being able to use mobile phones and communicate with the ground was the reason the UA93 hijackers failed to reach their target - any would-be hijacker will have learned from this.

My dad's a retired air traffic controller and was working the night of the Pan Am disaster.

He said that it couldn't have been an explosion that was missed on the radar as the "bing" gets bigger as the debris is thrown across a huge area. So, you couldn't miss it.

That's how they knew that there had been a bomb and not an engineering failure when their plane vanished off the radar.

He also said that here the military and civil air traffic controls work together in the same room - so information is exchanged freely. That doesn't happen in Malaysia, so, that's why it took several days for any sort of communication between them.

It's a dreadful siutaion, hope answers appear soon.

From the PPrune thread:

Fox News have just interviewed Lt.General McInereny in the US and he states that he thinks the 777 may have being flown to Pakistan.

He says he believes the answer to why it was taken is that the large plane could easily be used as a way of transporting explosives to carry out attacks on aircraft carriers and other government targets. 9/11 scenario. He also stated that such a large a/c would be difficult to hide on an island and he thinks its on the mainland.

He mentioned that the 777 had a satellite phone onboard, which will have allowed the pilots to talk to people on the ground without them being monitored.
Interesting comments from the high ranking US military man.

At the moment I can't find any other references to this Fox News item.

It would have to fly over lots of land to get to pakistan so that doesn't seem likely to me. But Fox News whipping up anti Muslim terrorist sentiment sounds about right....

Just reading a report on BBC news about how a Chinese research institute had found evidence of a 'sea floor event' around 90 mins after the plane went missing

The area is not known for seismic activity

Can I ask wheres the pp thread?

If it had been flown to Pakistan America would know about it as they have their drones there and would probably monitor air control too? Im sure they don't want to get involved in something like this. And if im right it was going the other way?

This is what we talk about a lot here and it's soo confusing as to where its gone. If its crashed into the sea surely some debris would have floated to the top? Would be horrible if passenger's survived and then died awaiting rescue.

www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-162.html

Sorry, I don't know how to make that link work.

clicky link

Thank you for the link

Interesting Bloomberg article on missing planes since 1948

Back to the stimulating simulator... Our neighbour's a pilot. When we asked him to speak to DS's Beavers group he mentioned that he had a cockpit replica at home that he'd built himself to practice on (presumably a while ago as he's been flying for many years). Passion for the job I think.

I imagine the truth, when it finally comes out, will be a lot more mundane than most people are postulating.

Most aviation disasters are a catalogue of errors, usually combining engineering/technical/data errors with human error.

It's very puzzling and tragic for the passengers and their loved ones waiting for news

This is all grimly fascinating in a dreadful way :( If the information being leaked at the moment is correct, and the plane changed heading several times while flying towards the Andaman Islands, then in one way it is reassuring that it isn't likely that that plane had a catastrophic event, passengers and crew hypoxic, etc. (at least for those of us nervous of flying....) On the other hand, this explains why the Malaysian airline authorities have looked so unwilling to talk freely - the implications for them are pretty worrying. The US clearly knows a great deal (probably from military satellites); and why is China leaking these diversionary tip-offs (satellite images, seismic activity)? The US-China geopolitics going on behind the scenes must be huge. A missing, possibly hijacked Beijing-bound plane full of Chinese passengers, potentially found by US military satellite radar data and a US destroyer on the search? Obama must have done nothing but sit in the situation room all week!

as an aside if anyone fancies a novel with lots of technical info regarding investigation into an air crash Michael Crichton's Airframe is a fab read