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Missing Malaysia Air plane

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KenAdams · 08/03/2014 09:47

It's so sad. They still haven't found anything, but thinks it's crashed into the sea.

For anyone that hasn't heard

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DowntonTrout · 14/03/2014 07:50

ABC have reported that the data reporting system (was) shut down just after 1.07am and that the transponder (was) shut down 14 minutes later. Suggesting two separate deliberate acts rather than one catastrophic incident. However it also says the transponder on an aircraft does not transmit, as such, just that it replies in response to a prompt sent out by secondary radar on the ground. If the aircraft is out of range of the secondary radar the transponder just sits there doing nothing, this does not mean it was shut down. So more conflicting information there really.

Also that US military Space Based Infrared satellites that are heat seeking and pick up missiles or explosions have failed to show any kind of heat source/ explosion in the area.

VivaLeBeaver · 14/03/2014 07:56

If there was a 14 min gap between the transponder and the data recording systems being turned off doesn't that also mean the hypoxia/decompression theory is unlikely?

DowntonTrout · 14/03/2014 08:00

Well yes. But again, it could be misinformation. As we are finding out more and more, something being reported by the press doesn't mean it is fact.

PublicEnemyNumeroUno · 14/03/2014 08:06

Still no news this morning?

This whole story is just bizarre

livingzuid · 14/03/2014 08:12

Oh and goldie hope all is better today.

PublicEnemyNumeroUno · 14/03/2014 08:16

I just read that too Living, very weird, makes it sound like it has been hijacked

DowntonTrout · 14/03/2014 08:17

It certainly sounds to be deliberate rather than accidental.

livingzuid · 14/03/2014 08:18

Isn't the whole thing just bizarre? The US thinks the plane is at the bottom of the Indian Ocean but then why would someone go to all the effort of disabling these tracking systems, fly it hours in the wrong direction and then crash it into the sea?

roomwithoutaroof · 14/03/2014 08:20

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JKSLtd · 14/03/2014 08:21

Could be the pilots ditched on purpose if they didn't want to cooperate?
Or something actually went wrong with the plane, either separately or because of what the hijackers had done - fired a gun or damaged the lane somehow?

Lifesagame · 14/03/2014 08:21

If you were hijacking it with the intention of crashing it into a target why choose a flight in the middle of the night when everyone is asleep? Some other reason maybe?

livingzuid · 14/03/2014 08:21

Oops pressed send too soon. But then fanatics do all kinds of terrible things that make no sense. Acts of hijacking and terrorism are very calculated to have maximum impact and devastation. Not saying this isn't devastating, far from it, but it's the deafening silence that is so rare. What as a terrorist would you hope to achieve by pulling a stunt like this?

Just :( those poor poor families.

Hmmkay · 14/03/2014 08:22

Exactly what I've been thinking as well from the start Livingzuid. So bizarre Confused

Thanks for all the technical info Goldie Blush

Hmmkay · 14/03/2014 08:24

That was to your first message Livingzuid

PartyPoison · 14/03/2014 08:27

I have to admit that originally I thought that there was something fishy about this e.g why did the transponder stop working, why did it change direction, why can't it be found etc but I have been reading about other airplane crashes and one thing stands out. That in some of the big ones there was a catalogue of mechanical and/or human errors which at the time would have been ludicrous to suggest.

With the Helios flight (everone, bar a member of cabin crew, succumbed to hypoxia) there was error after error made by different people and things which happened that should have been spotted.

I suppose it almost natural that when a plane of this size and technical ability crashes it will sometimes be due to reasons that are inconceivable at the time. (not in a woo way).

PublicEnemyNumeroUno · 14/03/2014 08:30

The report says it was still cruising at 35000ft hours after communications where lost, and it was over water - where was it going?? Why did it turn to go in another direction??

The US will find it i bet

meditrina · 14/03/2014 08:35

The British government may have offered help, and indeed might be supplying it to the multi-national investigation. But as no passengers were British, the plane was not British registered, had not taken off from Britian, and was not in British airspace, we have no formal locus and are unlikely to be able to offer anything that is not already being done by the US ("too many cooks" etc). RR is involved.

And I suppose how much credence to put on the Mail report depends on whether you believe RR/Boeing and the official investigation who put on the record yesterday that there was nothing from the aircraft since the last recorded position, or a newspaper quoting a source which contracts this.

I find it hard to believe that two international companies and all the officials involved in the actual investigation would permit the Malaysian minister to lie deliberately. And if the information was wrong (incomplete/premature), then I would expect a formal retraction on the record, not a choice to leak via a newspaper (and wouldn't a US official speak more readily to a US paper, not a Uk one?)

MoreBeta · 14/03/2014 08:38

Reports coming out of US that they think there is credible evidence the plane was deliberately turned to the North West in the direction of the Andaman Islands and a new search area is being opened.

livingzuid · 14/03/2014 08:40

To be fair to the Mail which I normally wouldn't be, they may be onto something.

www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/14/mh370-search-for-missing-plane-extends-to-the-indian-ocean-live-updates

Reuters released a news update minutes ago about why the focus was West.

meditrina · 14/03/2014 08:40

There have been press conferences mid morning UK time for the last couple of days. Anyone know if there's one scheduled for today?

livingzuid · 14/03/2014 08:42

hmmkay :)

The plot thickens.

isitme1 · 14/03/2014 08:43

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isitme1 · 14/03/2014 08:43

sky news

KenAdams · 14/03/2014 08:44

MA update

To say that they have no update and all media speculation is all rumours. No mention of the Indian Ocean situation either.

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