Missing Malaysia Air plane

[KenAdams]

It's so sad. They still haven't found anything, but thinks it's crashed into the sea.

For anyone that hasn't heard

Map link is working again now?

Add message | Report | Message poster NeonMuffin Thu 13-Mar-14 10:00:07
If someone has hijacked them why haven't they come forward and made their demands known, which is what would usually happen in hijacking?

Not if the hi jacking went wrong.

they wouldn't come forward with their demands if they're intending to take off in it and fly it into a target.

From today's press conference (Guardian)

'The Malaysia Airlines chief executive, Ahmad Jauhari Yahyain, insisted Rolls-Royce and Boeing had received no more contact with the plane after 1.07am on Saturday morning.
“We did not receive anything beyond 1.07,” he said.'

Isn't that interesting

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3219331

This has been quite informative to follow.

It seems they are now saying that it is not true that the plane flew for a further 4 hours.

It is a different story every 5 minutes!

Smile so they are denying it flew for 4 hours more? Who originally said it did?

so weird how the Chinese satellite images were released 'by mistake'? since when do things like that get released by mistake??

and the whole rolls Royce thing - flying onwards for 4 hours - but then the spokesguy saying this is untrue

Here has just been a further press conference. The Malaysian minister has made it clear that they are working closely with US and Chinese and other international authorities (including unprecedented sharing of military data) plus with Boeing and RR engineers. They have categorically stated that the reports that the plane could have carried on flying for some hours after last contact is simply untrue.

they just don't know. very Bermuda triangle.

This looks interesting www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-manager-3235818

My thoughts exactly usuallyright.

This RR thing is very odd. I thought they themselves had confirmed the 4 hour data thing?

"so weird how the Chinese satellite images were released 'by mistake'? since when do things like that get released by mistake??"

Very easily done. The Chinese would have released the information to the investigation, and someone misread the caveat and put it into general release. It would account for the Chinese complaint about the flow of information into the public domain.

I think somebody somewhere has conflated the fact that the plane had the RR Trent 800 engine which is capable of sending data back to RR & the fact that the plane had enough fuel on board to continue flying for several hours.

RR can't/wouldn't divulge what any data said except to air traffic investigators.

or they are denying it because of the mass panic it will induce...

\link{http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282?mod=WSJEurope_hpp_LEFTTopStories&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282.html%3Fmod%3DWSJEurope_hpp_LEFTTopStories\Wall Street Journal article}

'Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours, based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program'

This link also includes that map (it was tweeted by a WSJ journo)

I wonder if Boeing & RR are making it clear that the plane & its engines have not caused this...

Downtown that has been shown to be 2 ships on a clearer picture. We also found it yesterday and tagged it. We decided it was pirates.

oh

from further down in the same article

'The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce RR.LN -0.80% PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground.
'"We continue to monitor the situation and to offer Malaysia Airlines our support," a Rolls-Royce representative said Wednesday, declining further comment.
'"The disappearance is officially now an accident and all information about this is strictly handled by investigators," said a Rolls-Royce executive who declined to be named, citing rules of the International Civil Aviation Organization, a United Nations agency.'

The Sydney paper quote was "officially not an accident"

which one is the typo?

(ignore the 'RR.LN -0.80% PLC', that's a stock market link)

Well the information that RR gave the investigation was given at the press conference.

And the official line is that all possibilities continue to be investigated, so both 'not' and 'now' are still in the frame.

Things are starting to get ridiculous. Information released then denied. Everyone trying to cover their own backsides but no actual confirmed, agreed information other than the last radar position and vocal contact with the Malaysian air traffic control.

There is even a story about a Nigerian (?) prophet predicting this in 2013 on video and saying he had contacted the country in question to inform them of his prediction.

If the plane really doesn't did fly for five hours, isn't that about right for north Korea?

But surely everyone is watching North Korea with satellites etc?

The press are leaping on every little thing that anyone says and magnifying it, then it gets further magnified in cyber space.

I'm not surprised RR are declining to comment directly and referring enquirers to the official information channel.

But that doesn't limit the scope for commentators outside the investigation to put forward any number of theories, or for any of those (whether likely or not) to be the one that's chattered about that day.

I think it has been "taken down" accidentally or not. It sounds like a cover up to me. 777 just don't disappear.

North Korea is beyond that 2200 mile radius (it just touches the S of S Korea)