For all of you who don't understand the disgust with the Daily Mail...

[Spero]

I have just been told they have published an article about John Hemming in which they name me. Both my real name and my user name.

Luckily for me I don't care. Luckily for me I decided long ago I would never put anything on line that I would be ashamed/upset/frightened for anyone else to read.

But for lots of people this would be a complete and utter disaster. People post really personal and sensitive stuff on this site about the worst times of their lives, looking for help and support. They must know that.

Note that they never bothered contacting me to find out which category I fell into.

So if anyone wants to start another wide eyed innocent thread - o I just don't understand why you all hate the Daily Mail so much!

Does this kind of thing help you understand a little more?

I will link to the scum bags but only because I hope people might leave some 'helpful' comments about JH.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2532649/MP-John-Hemming-banned-Mumsnet-posting-Italian-woman-forced-courts-caesarean.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Utter cunts

Utter toads & wank badger cunts.

I have added a comment to the piece in the DM - it nearly killed me to have to link to them - but needs must.

& Spero

It's extremely lucky for vulnerable children in this country that his "parent's rights" crusade is being quietly unpicked by brighter minds than his. Not (with the greatest of respect to Spero, who has done a stellar job) that possessing a brighter mind than Hemming's is exactly a challenge, is it. What a sad, malicious and thoroughly inadequate little man he appears to be.

Ahh but so long as we refrain from calling JH a cunt, we should be okay to call the DM a bunch of cunts. After all, it can't be a personal attack if it's on a group of people...

Please don't call the Daily Mail cunts. As the old joke goes, they lack both the depth and the warmth. It just really unsettles me, that women's primary sexual organs are the ultimate insult - call someone a dick or a cock and you mean mildly annoying/stupid; a cunt, and it's the ultimate dismissal of the target having any worth at all. It seems so inherently misogynist, that the insult has such punch. Like there's something unspeakably horrible about women.

They're a bunch of fuckwits, maybe?

I like the general term fuckers personally.

Have tried to link to synopsis. All messages are being monitored first.

What are mumsnet hq doing about this? It's a pretty major personal attack.

Mumsnet is quoted in that article - did they not warn you Spero?

I can't access their comments section. Clearly my phone hates the DM too.

Oh Spero and for you.

We must not lose sight of the fact that JH,with or without influence of wine, disclosed information deemed by the court to be held private. Reprehensible, IMHO.

That he sought to discredit Spero may, ahem, not be borne of malice, but an attempt to build a smoke screen or whatever you want to call it to deflect attention away from himself on this forum so this 'indiscretion' be overlooked.

DM... Now that is another matter. My journalistic law/libel knowledge is is a bit rusty as i am more mum than journo these days, but I am sure a person should be asked for their side of the story, or at least given the chance to comment, before they are quoted or named.

If someone is disclosed without their knowledge or against their will it has to be because it is essential to the context/validity of the story. Clearly not so in this instance.

In fact I think we can safey say in this case neither applies. Bloody lazy journalism. They didn't do their homework and should not have published Spero's RL name.

Sorry Spero having a bit of a rant on your behalf, I know you are ok with being outed but there are hundreds on this forum who would not post if they thought someone somehow may make their very private/anonymous business quite public. Especially someone in such a position of authority and power.

Sorry all, but of a long post that

The rights (negligable) of naming Spero aside, if we can all concentrate on reiterating ad nauseam the real true facts, not only of what this dreadful man did, and said on here on those earlier threads, but on how this is far from the first time he has inveigled his way into vulnerable women's lives with his social services baby snatching hysteria, then hopefully the hacks who are no doubt hanging onto our every word tonight, might be able to take this story further than we could have hoped a fortnight ago.

Mumsnet is quoted in that article - did they not warn you Spero?

The mumsnet quote was swiped from the Birminham Mail article, which did not out Spero. In fact of all the paper (guradian, indpendant, birminham mail, expressstar thingie, telegraph, DM) that have quoted mumsnet.... only one wnet and outed Spero.

They took the info about her from Hemming's blog post about "being on the naughty step"

Thgre is no way MN could have known they would do this, and the Birminham mail was updated with the MNHQ statment, it wasn't there when first published,

We knew the B. Mail article was coming days before MNHQ did.

Yes, I agree, his misbehaving on here (whether ultimately a criminal offense or not) needs to be used to point to all his other misdoings.

A bit like Al Capone ended up being done for tax evasion

AuntieMaggie I'm pretty sure the quote from MN is just repeating what they said to another journalist. I forget which article first had the statement from HQ - there have been so many today! This is the only one that's felt the need to out Spero though.

Drank to the twitter amica mia?

Voliamo!

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I don't see it at as MNHQ's 'duty' to take anybody to court over this.

MN is a public forum and his breaking Talk Guidelines is simply a 'hook' to get Twitter/papers interested.
Hopefully, many people will read about this, in the greater scheme of things minor, gaffe which will then lead them to look at the man and the offices he holds a bit more closely.

Well, that's what I am hoping, anyway

"Wankbadger" is badgerist

Carpe, look at your inbox.