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Domestic abuse and murder in Australian case - poss trigger

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Homebird8 · 27/11/2013 08:37

Domestic abuse and murder in Australian case here

A desperate case illustrating that sometimes, though in this case tragically too late, the plausible abuser is recognised as guilty. I'd say RIP but I wish she could have lived in peace.

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expatinscotland · 27/11/2013 08:41

I am so glad this twat is locked up now. This case is so shocking! Poor woman. Make sme so frightened for my daughter.

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 27/11/2013 09:14

I remember reading about this a while ago - I think the footage of him grabbing her seconds before he threw her off the balcony is what stuck in my mind. One sick twisted bastard. And he had a fucking girlfriend sitting in the court supporting him. It beggars belief that anyone would be sitting supporting him when there is actual CCTV footage (that he took) of him attacking her moments before she was killed. Unbelievable. The white ribbons worn by the detectives who worked on this was quite poignant.

expatinscotland · 27/11/2013 17:02

Was he remanded in custody?

meditrina · 27/11/2013 17:14

I found the statement by Lisa Harnum's mother very moving.

It is a powerful warning of the corrosive effects of controlling behaviour, and a call for more support for women so they see earlier what is happening and have the strength to break away safely.

OneStepCloserIWillExterminate · 27/11/2013 17:21

I saw it, bloody horrific, so glad he was found guilty, but I couldnt get my head around that he now has another girlfriend. What is she thinking?

expatinscotland · 27/11/2013 17:31

He is not being sentenced for a while. If he is not remanded, what is to stop him from fleeing or killing himself?

meditrina · 27/11/2013 17:40

He had his bail revoked and was remanded in custody in the run up to the trial. I can't see why they'd let him out now he's been convicted.

expatinscotland · 27/11/2013 17:52

Baatard. Hope he rots in there and someone makes him their bitch.

meditrina · 27/11/2013 20:58

Here's a full legal report of the case

Morloth · 28/11/2013 05:56

Justice McCallum is most excellent.

He was on bail during the trial, that was revoked after closing arguments.

I hope he gets life and learns about living under someone else's control.

Her poor mama.

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 28/11/2013 08:21

Lisa Harnum's mother was very dignified and thoughtful, stating that 2 families have been devastated by this. But having read about his history now, particularly the attack on the police officers his mother and sister were party to, I don't think I'd be quite so generous in having sympathy for his family. He's a murderous evil bastard. His family knew all about his violent past and still they sat there hoping his lies would get him off.

expatinscotland · 28/11/2013 13:47

His family are awful! I am so glad he is locked up. Hope the other inmates look after him well and he gets a life tariff with no parole possibility.

phantomnamechanger · 02/12/2013 17:29

the sad thing is that there are other women all over the world being abused and controlled and desperate to escape from freaks like this man. and there are those who are so controlled they cannot even muster the self confidence to realise what is happening to them, let alone hatch a plan to escape. I hope this story touches one of them into taking action before another woman is killed by her partner.

so sad, but justice for her family at least.

mathanxiety · 03/12/2013 16:05

It's all so easy for judges to see after there's been a murder. But what if she had succeeded in fleeing? What would she have been left with apart from the clothes she stood up in? How would the matter have ended up if she had got away and had to go through divorce from this man? She with few resources with which to hire a lawyer to secure her rights, and he a businessman with a family behind him. Not to mention the after effects of years and years of being told you are worthless, which can make you very meek and timid and not inclined to push the abuser in any way.

Would any divorce court judge have believed her about the abuse, and most importantly, would any divorce court judge have taken the constant monitoring (it could have been passed off as a measure taken to prevent burglary after all) and the insane jealousy (proof of love or evidence that there are always two sides to domestic violence in many people's eyes) seriously if the matter of child custody and visitation had come into play in divorce proceedings?

If she had had children with this man, he would have had a very unquestioned right to have a relationship with those children no matter what he had done to her. It is really hard to establish that a man is unfit to be a father even after years of abuse (especially if that abuse has been emotional, psychological, sexual, financial, and 'only' the odd incident of physical violence and that is only believed if it was reported). The end result is a woman is tied to an abuser through the children.

So while I applaud the detectives for wearing their ribbons, and while I applaud the idea of the ribbons, there is a serious amount of blindness to the true nature of domestic abuse that must be overcome, and a reluctance to infringe on the rights of fathers that is extremely frustrating. Even the judge said it was inexplicable why the victim here had stayed. There is a huge need for education here.

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