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Merseyside motorist caught doing 165mph banned

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syl1985 · 31/07/2013 20:39

He's only getting a 3 year driving ban? Like you'd by accident go from 70 miles to 165mph?
And don't pretend you didn't know that you put yourself, but more importantly other lives at risk by your actions.

A car is not a lives necessity, but you could kill someone with it if you don't follow the safety rules.

My personal opinion is that if you clearly can't follow these rules then you shouldn't be allowed to drive.
I think at least a 10 years driving ban would be better.

What's 3 years? He's now 23 and he will be 26 when he can retake his driving test. Maybe he still lives at home. So mum/dad can give him a lift if he needs one.

Wait 10 years then he's 33 and 10 years wiser and hopefully more responsible then he's now.

There're area's where you'll need a car to get somewhere. Then move to a place with a good public transport.

If they don't care about our safety on the road then why should we care about them?

A 3 years ban is nothing and although uncomfortable, I don't think it makes other idiots think twice about their actions on the road.

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daddoinghisbest · 31/07/2013 22:12

I see your point, but thankfully, nobody was injured (I assume as I haven't seen the news item). And so he was punished for speeding. If somone had been hurt or killed, he may well be starting a long prison sentance.He's young and may well learn from this experience. The ban will affect him for a longtime in terms of insurance and possibly his job prospects. I'm happy to think that this episode will make him a more responsible person, and may have prevented a tragedy later (but then I'm known for being the eternal optimist) Smile

syl1985 · 31/07/2013 22:40

Forgot to post the link
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-23519111

True, nobody was injured, but should that make the difference?
The action is the same.

And if he created an accident should that make the difference between a prison sentence or not?
I think they should look at someone's actions. Not if it went wrong.

Or to say it differently:
How well or bad the other traffic dealt with his reckless behavior.

If they look at the outcome of someone's mistakes in traffic. Then a simple mistake we all make from time to time in traffic, but if it goes wrong and causes an accident.
Could have very serious consequences for both parties involved. Yet if it just was a minor mistake that you made, it was just an accident. Something that could happen even by the most careful drivers or other road users.

For example:
Not looking well enough in your mirrors before driving away.
On that moment a bicycle is in the wrong place at the wrong time and your little mistake has created serious injury by the cyclist.

Then it'd be good or bad luck that's giving you a lower or higher punishment. Yet the mistake or in this young man's case. His reckless behavior is the same.

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daddoinghisbest · 31/07/2013 22:56

You're right... It's a tricky issue. If I'm reversing and don't see a fence and damage it, at worst I'd have a civil action against me for the cost of the repair. If I do exactly the same thing, but squash a mother and baby I'd be banged up for years. Same action, but different consequences. I'm not sure that damaging a fence should see me in cell block H. (Or whatever the male equivalent is)
And of course, our view is affected by life events.

daddoinghisbest · 31/07/2013 23:02

Sorry, just watched the news clip. To be so unrepentant is so wrong and shows that the sentence wasn't enough. If he does insist on continuing to be such a knob, we can only hope he's caught again, with nobody hurt, and that he gets a sentence which will change his ways.

syl1985 · 06/08/2013 22:54

Maybe there should be a difference between a traffic accident and putting lives at risk by ones behavior.

An accident is just an accident. 1 or more people being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Surely you could think.

If he had a better look in the mirror he might have seen them. If they would have done this or this then....

An accident is non intentional and no one's fault at all. A little mistake. Loosing your attention for a second. Could sometimes be all that it takes.

Someone shouldn't be severely punished for that. It's horrible and difficult for the people involved to live with it. But accidents just happen. It's just the way it is.

But if someone is drunk behind the wheel and kills another road user. They also call it a traffic accident.

You won't get drunk by accident. Get into a car and drive away. You might not think as clear as you normally would do. But you were sober when you started drinking. If you know you still had to drive back home. You shouldn't drink alcohol and get drunk.

Maybe they should make a difference between an accident and someone who intentionally put other lives at risk.

That might be a start.

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cumfy · 17/08/2013 15:02

It was 5am in June. Good light, presumably very little traffic.

They should have charged him with dangerous driving if they wanted a longer ban.

Unfortunately people, even when convicted of death by dangerous driving, only get 10 year bans.
It's the kind of thing you would expect a lifetime ban for in the vast majority of cases. But, no.

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