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Two year old in England shirt banned from eating pub lunch unless he took his shirt off

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zippitippitoes · 03/06/2006 08:17

....you have to laugh

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franke · 03/06/2006 08:22

Zippi - is all this hysteria surrounding the use of the english flag for real or is it just The Sun being, well, hysterical? I'm in Germany and reading all this stuff, it just sounds like everyone in England has gone insane.

Snafu · 03/06/2006 08:22

Ridiculous. Although I might have understood if they were asked to remove it on grounds of taste. Grin

ghosty · 03/06/2006 08:28

I can't open the link ... what is the story?

SoupDragon · 03/06/2006 08:28

It's nothing to do with it being an England shirt with the flag on, it's because all football shirts were banned.

SoupDragon · 03/06/2006 08:29

"A two-year-old became an unwitting victim of the World Cup hooligan crackdown after he was ordered to take off his England football top whilst having lunch in a high chair - in case he sparked trouble."

ghosty · 03/06/2006 08:30

Thanks Soupy ...
Um, why are football shirts banned?

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zippitippitoes · 03/06/2006 08:30

Well I love the world cup.. I think it's great fun and last time it drew in lots of people to share something other than poxy BB.

I also don't understand the madness concerning the flag...we always have to have a silly angst about stuff here.

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gigglinggoblin · 03/06/2006 08:34

having worked in a pretty rough pub where any excuse was good enough to kick off i can totally understand why they would want to ban football shirts. it does seem a bit ott in this case but if other parents saw it they could just use their kids to advertise their team instead of wearing the shirt themselves. v sad for normal people but its not much fun having to tear several blokes apart when they are trashing the place

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zippitippitoes · 03/06/2006 08:38

In that case it's not the shirts it's the people wearing them that need banning.

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gigglinggoblin · 03/06/2006 08:41

you dont know who needs banning until afterwards tho. agree with the idea, but in practice it wouldnt work. and no pub is going to ban all its regulars!

Kelly1978 · 03/06/2006 08:45

I am really surprised that the parents went along with it, I would have left the place!

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zippitippitoes · 03/06/2006 08:47

If they are going to fight they will fight any way...om match days eg local derbys then there are generally restrictions any way.

In this town there is a pubwatch scheme where certain people are banned from participating pubs. And landlords have discretion as to who they serve or even let in. There was a phase here when designe bars opened they wouldn't let you in if you were too old/ugly. A few months later they let any body in as they were no longer flavour of the month.

You have to be a bit dim to make a two year old eat with his shirt inside out!

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Twiglett · 03/06/2006 08:54

ok if a 2 year old is ok what about a 3 year old

and if a 3 year old what about a 4 year old?

a 5 year old? a 6 year old?

where exactly does that line get drawn

.. blanket ban is understandable

however story is of course laughable but agree with snafu .. should be on matters of taste .. why would you dress your toddler in such a polyester nightmare?

dressedupnowheretogo · 03/06/2006 09:32

do you know that wetherspoons are lifting the blanket ban for the world cup so they are happy to have the hooligans in when they are gonna make the most money out of them so in theory if they woulod have been eating next week a word would not have been siad

hypocrites sp?

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zippitippitoes · 03/06/2006 09:34

the area that they should be enforcing rules is their obligation not to serve under age drinkers..which would make a far greater contribution to society as a whole.

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Kelly1978 · 03/06/2006 09:37

the dts have them! Present from BIL

arfishymeau · 03/06/2006 09:38

Actually, this has always intrigued me about posh spice. She wears versace, the children look like rappers. WTF?

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zippitippitoes · 03/06/2006 09:51

Strangely, I was in a Wetherspoons by Old Trafford about ten days ago and in our group two adults and baby were wearing football shirts, not me and dp though, and no mention was made of a ban. But it was a scruffy outlet, maybe in Lloyds ones it's different.

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Vev · 07/06/2006 07:52

I'd have left - they wouldn't have got my money. How stupid - 2 year old - would they get "suspended" from nursery for wearing England shirts? I can understand the hooligan part but most people wearing England shirts are supporting their country and aren't hooligans. It's mad. What difference does a shirt make - if you're a hooligan, you're a hooligan!

Piffle · 07/06/2006 08:06

preposterous - taste not withstanding and neither of my kids every being adorning in something nylon while I'm buying their clothes.. but

Ds school (he is 12) are off on school trip today to histpric house, they were expressly asked not to wear football shirts, not even England ones,
FFS when we were kids, they were everywhereSo whats he wearing?
His anti George Bush t shirt - hee hee
I know there is a high proportion of total twats who wear the shirts, but a two yr old
This country is too much, did they think he was going to cause trouble?

Bozza · 07/06/2006 08:46

I think mumsnetters are sniffy about football shirts tbh. My 5yo DS is obsessed by football and absolutely loves his England strip which was a birthday present. He would wear it continually if I let him.

SSSandy · 07/06/2006 08:49

Sounds ridiculous to me. My reaction would depend on how the staff approached me. If they were friendly about it and in particular to the child, ok, I'd shrug it off with a laugh. Otherwise, I'd leave without waiting for the food or paying for it. I wouldn't put up with dd being treated badly anywhere. What's the poor kid supposed to think about having to take off his t-shirt and turn it inside out?

Wordsmith · 07/06/2006 08:54

Twiglett - what's wrong with football shirts on kids? I agree they look a bit naff on sweaty overweight men (unless they're actually playing footie at the time) but kids, FGS? DS1 had the official away strip for his birthday, and I've just bought DS2 an England T shirt as we are going to a World Cup barbecue on Sat.

I wouldn't dress them in anything offensive (ie FCUK or similar) but does wearing an England shirt automaticaly make kids trainee hooligans?

Piffle - love the anti-GB shirt idea - where did you get it?

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zippitippitoes · 07/06/2006 09:24

I sent an email asking if they were suspending the ban during the world cup and why as it seemed a little hypocritical but they haven't bothered to reply..so quite tempted to go to a lloyds and wear football shirts and see what happens.

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handlemecarefully · 07/06/2006 09:26

Personally I am appalled if even adults are barred from wearing an England shirt never mind 2 year old toddlers (ridiculous)

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