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stuart hall haa pleaded guilty

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mouseymummy · 02/05/2013 10:31

The entertainer Stuart hall has pleaded guilty to the sex offences he was charged with... I believe one was against a 9yo girl.

I was shocked by him being arrested.... Now, I'm just saddened.

BBC news has reported this on the website, ill link in a minute.

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NotDavidTennant · 02/05/2013 20:59

LineRunner - Frome the BBC news article on this story:

"Mr Afzal said the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) would not be proceeding with the rape charge as the woman who made the allegation no longer wished to give evidence in light of the guilty pleas."

suebfg · 02/05/2013 21:01

I'm not shocked. I met him when I was about 9/10 years old at a horse show event and although my parents were there, I remember feeling uncomfortable on being introduced to him. It's too long ago to remember the detail - I remember that he kissed me but it is the feeling of uncomfortableness that I still remember.

HotheadPaisan · 02/05/2013 21:04

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Pan · 02/05/2013 21:05

yes, the rape allegation 'lies on file' (sine die, in legal terms). One of the implications is that IF the woman concerned has a change of heart in the future about offering evidence, the CPS can resume the prosecution.

georgedawes · 02/05/2013 22:06

Northender I'm sorry about what happened to you. And you Billy. It hasn't happened to me, but has to family members and it really had long lasting effects :( it's really brave of you to post.

If you wanted advice, I'm sure rape crisis would be a good place to call, they were amazing support for someone I know.

edam · 02/05/2013 22:47

I think this is the same brave head of the CPS, Nazir Afzal, who decided to prosecute the Rochdale sex grooming gang and the parents of that poor girl who was murdered and whose body was hidden. Crimes that other authorities had turned away from pursuing and prosecuting because it was all too difficult and too culturally sensitive and the victims in the Rochdale case were not upright responsible middle class citizens but vulnerable girls living in care homes.

Thank heavens for him.

Pan · 02/05/2013 22:50

It is the one and same person. He is/was head of CPS in the North-West.

edam · 02/05/2013 22:53

Then I doff my cap to him. He really turned things around wrt to the Rochdale case and is clearly continuing to fight for victims to get justice.

LineRunner · 03/05/2013 00:21

I hope MN can get Nazir Afzal on for a webchat, I would like to say thank you.

AnyFucker · 03/05/2013 00:28

Nazir is bloody brilliant, of what I have seen

olgaga · 03/05/2013 00:44

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's the next DPP when Keir Starmer steps down at the end of this year (his 5 year term finishes).

I think Starmer has been pretty good too on domestic and sexual violence.

Sadly the police (with a few notable exceptions) and justice system is miles behind.

LineRunner · 03/05/2013 08:36

By the way I just googled 'Stuart Hall MP who became a Lord'. That old Early Day Motion is interesting (with the benefit of hindsight of course).

NotDavidTennant · 03/05/2013 08:53

I do wonder if his admission of guilt has been strategic, in that by admitting the 'lesser' charges of indecent assault he has avoided facing trial for the more serious offence of rape.

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mouseymummy · 03/05/2013 09:54

NotDavid, quite possible, however, as the rape charge has been "placed on file" if the woman chooses or if new evidence comes to light or someone else comes forward, then he will be tried for that too.

I really hope that no one else has suffered at the hands of this evil, vile piece of work, if they have then I pray that they have the strength and courage to come forward.

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donnie · 03/05/2013 11:06

He is on the front page of every newspaper today. I hope he feels utter shame and degredation. Because that is what he deserves.

Northender and Billysilly - you are brave and courageous and we all support you. People like the ones who abused you are calculating bullies.

iclaudius · 03/05/2013 11:18

My abuser did that 'admission of lesser charges' bit - in the hope of getting off the court case
I still proceeded for mental health reasons as although the worst give days of my life - court was therapeutic
I didn't expect a oration sentence for my abusee but he got one - I think hall will
These arrogant middle class men
His wife won't leave him - he's rich

iclaudius · 03/05/2013 11:19

Sorry must preview 'five ' days
Didn't expect a 'prison'

iclaudius · 03/05/2013 11:20

'Abuser' gah sorry !!

Acandlelitshadow · 03/05/2013 11:28

I don't know if his wife will leave him but partner or family standing by an abuser along with ostricising a victim who has spoken up and/or their supporters is astonishingly common.

MIL has chosen this route. I can only assume rather than live alone but as she's split the family irrevocably I don't suppose I'll ever find out.

iclaudius · 03/05/2013 11:47

Acandlelitshadow my experience exactly - so common and heartbreaking for the victim

jennymac · 03/05/2013 13:38

I don't understand why women stay with men who do this kind of thing. How could you even stand to breath the same air as them never mind share a house/bed?

boxershorts · 03/05/2013 14:08

The BBC were regarded as tame and establishment in far off days. Little did we know

iclaudius · 03/05/2013 17:07

Agree jenny

handcream · 03/05/2013 17:18

Can someone tell me why women stand by these sorts of men. Its not the affairs as the underage element in all of this for me. One of the victims is 9 yrs old!

I am wondering if its the same reason why women stay with men who are violent to them - because perhaps they fear they dont want to be alone and there is no where to go.

iclaudius · 03/05/2013 17:21

Money?