3 year old devil child terrorises neighbours.

[Caligula]

Oh all right, maybe not exactly.
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Yeah, but a football, Caligula...in the hands (at the feet?!) of a 3yo, well...carnage...death, famine, war, destruction, scrofula, pestilence, rabies, lice, painful mouth ulcers, a chesty cough...anything could happen.

in the tenancy agreement it will say something like " you have the right to the peacefull enjoyment of your home"

perhaps the lad is kicking the ball against someones house and its driving them nuts. the HA are trying to enforce their own tenancies.

the liklihood of eviction is NIL that fuck all NIL no judge is going to throw a kid on the street becuase he plays ball....loudly. and there are a raft of measures which the HA must enploy fist before it gets to this stage.

now, despite my first thought of " why the fucking fuck fuck is a threee year old playing on the street?" there is a societal gansterising of young people at the moment.

perfectly "normal" activities for young people - are errr playing football. and i am more than happy to see children playing footy, i move my car so that the kids on outr street can play footy - only to be screamed at by a neighbour for "encouraging their behaviour"

i would rather they play footy than go and graffiti or something else mindless, i love to see kids playing together, getting excersise and enjoying themselves - usually in front of their own homes where parents can see them. its great and the only objection you usually get is from miserable old fuckers who forgot that they once were children.

that being said the planners and developers of estates do not fully consider their own proposals, opting for more housing as the govt targets get tighter and demand gets higher and lucritive deals get ever so more pletny and the " we have more properties than you" bigger dick mentality of housing providers in measuring their success is eer prevalent.

rather than considering that children need play space - this play space needs to be carefully considered in view of security of the area and the tenants right to peacefully enjoy their home.

Maybe the housing association are Man. U. supporters.

Interesting points Custy.

I was once very briefly an illegal sub-tenant at the home of an acquaintance of mine who was a lunatic, but that's just by the by. He had a one bedroomed housing association flat with a garden and upstairs, there were three bedroomed family flats. Without er, access to a garden.

Doubtless the HA and the architect gave themselves an award for the estate.

I thought that too, custy - I wouldn't let my 3 year old play football in the street.

But I reckon there might be more to it than this - I know an elderly couple (lovely people, not miserable old gits, btw ) near where my parents used to live (also in Manchester, like this story) whose lives were made an absolute misery by kids playing football outside their house. OK the kids involved weren't 3 (but then neither are the other two mentioned in this story) but they would kick the ball constantly against the garage door, the front window, their car - and they got a mouthful of abuse and threats if they objected.

I agree - kids should be able to play football in the street, they shouldn't be demonised if they are just playing and doing no harm - but there are cases when it's not as innocent as it appears on the surface.

I wonder why they are playing football in the streets though. Why aren't estates designed so that children can play in sight of their parents without disturbing their neighbours?

Asa 0person who had a nighmare 3 yr old neighbour I can say that the behaviour of some 3 years old wih behavioural problems are MILES away of the average kid the same age. There must be more than what is portrayed at the news. Our dear little neighbour was always playing on the street and you could not even get out without receiving a good dose of name calling or even a shower of stones, go around the neighbourhood breaking cars' exterior mirrors with an air gun (all of them, probably about 25-30 cars in a go), when he did it the second time, and after trying in countless ocassions to speak to the parents, my father reported him to the police, just to found out that there were 18 other reports on him

So yes, he may be playing footie but not in the way an average child do. And sure, mums of children who have received warnings about their children behavioural always play it down... yeah he killed somebody but the other kid was nagging him down... Madness!

Good point, caligula - there's a modern housing estate near us where the house all surround a sort of 'village green' open space. Cars can't get near it, so it's a safe space for kids to play and they are far enough from the houses not to be an annoyance but close enough for parents to keep an eye on them out of the window.

Wythenshawe, where this story happened - was an overspill estate for inner city Manchester - mostly built in the 60s/early 70s iirc. I guess that was a safer time for kids - perhaps planners then didn't consider that a time would come when parents would want 'safe spaces' like that.

I hate newspaper stories like this that don't give you all the facts. Custardo's, marthamoo's and Caligula's viewpoints are far more interesting :)

The child could be causing a nuisance, the child could be doing what all children do. Without more facts I will never know.