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do "we" have the right to say what benefit claimants spend the money on?

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DizzyHoneyBee · 02/10/2012 21:01

In the news today, a think tank suggests that many would support restrictions on what benefit claimants can spend the money on.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19792066

What do you think?

OP posts:
maillotjaune · 03/10/2012 11:12

MadBanners they will have to take their children with them to clean the streets obvs. Why should the children get time to be children, they might grow up to be lazy scroungers too Hmm

ParsingFancy · 03/10/2012 11:57

Depends entirely where you were, BeetrootJuice. Unemployment was very regional because it was (partly) caused by the the death of traditional heavy industries.

That's very nice for you if you lived in one of the lucky regions. But to suggest everyone in say Tyne and Wear just "got second jobs" in the 1980s would be... odd.

Or maybe the people of T&W just suffered a strange, localised lapse of moral fibre which happened to coincide with the closure of the pits and shipyards.

Glitterknickaz · 03/10/2012 12:09

Ok so what happens when my kids soil themselves more than normal, it's raining so I have to use the tumble dryer (which I avoid at all costs)?

What if I haven't got enough electricity coupons for that?

The costs relating to disability aren't that simple to judge. I shop at markets for the majority of my groceries, the remainder at the cheapest possible supermarket that week (and I look online to check which that is) so that I can meet unexpected costs as mentioned above.

That wouldn't work under a coupon scheme.

MrsBucketxx · 03/10/2012 12:19

a tumble dryer is a luxury. airers and radiators come to mind ffs even i don't use mine its bloody expensive.

HerOffTheInternet · 03/10/2012 12:22

MrsB

unless you've invented a radiator that runs on fresh fucking air then you are talking nonsense

IneedAsockamnesty · 03/10/2012 12:23

mrsbucket do you have any idea how many rental houses and social housing still only have night storage heaters?

MrsHoarder · 03/10/2012 12:24

A tumble drier is pretty important in damp rented accomodation. Especially as drying clothes indoors is often in breach of tenancy agreements. Its also important if someone has limited mobility.

garlicbutty · 03/10/2012 12:25

MrsBucket, you're making me laugh.
Thanks, I need cheering up.

losingtrust · 03/10/2012 12:25

I never use a tumble dryer either despite having one as waste of money. I have an airer and the top of doors which seems to work quite quickly but otherwise Glitter I agree with you.

SunWukong · 03/10/2012 12:27

That think tank can go do one.

Fucking idiots, another scam to make the rich richer, oi! You poor person here is your tesco ration card for the week, what's that you say you need new shoes? then go to a larger tesco that sells clothing, you got legs, walk it. What's that, the shoes are cheaper in the charity shop?. Tough now get out of my sight you useless dog.

losingtrust · 03/10/2012 12:27

Sorry if this would breach your rental agreements. It is also not good if your kids have asthma supposedly.

losingtrust · 03/10/2012 12:29

Also secondhand clothes shopping. I have just picked up a brand new pair of leather boots at Oxfam for £6.99, still with the packing. Tesco could not compete with that! I am not on benefits but if I lost my job, we would have no choice.

garlicbutty · 03/10/2012 12:35

I have an airer and the top of doors which seems to work quite quickly

How lovely :) Your house must be well-ventilated, warm and dry. Unlike mine and most other cheap accommodations.

MrsEdinburgh · 03/10/2012 12:38

Using the oven is more bloody expensive than using a tumble dryer & so is using an electric shower (more expensive than TD.)
Have a look at your energy usage meter when using above appliances if you don't believe me. (Obviously difficult when in shower but get DP/DC whoever to look.)

Btw use we use airers when weather to rubbish to put clothes on line.
Don't use radiators as cause condensation when drying clothes which can lead to damp problems.
And we use the Tumble Dryer when we have run out of airers.

Perhaps we should make people who receive benefits have a goat too......

garlicbutty · 03/10/2012 12:43

Why, Mrs E, to eat the damp laundry? Grin

losingtrust · 03/10/2012 12:46

It is nicely well-ventilated thank you and sorry yours is cheap acommodation. I have previously lived in homes without any heating at all and it took for ever for things to dry and bloody freezing so used the launderette then. Vouchers would not cover that though!

MrsEdinburgh · 03/10/2012 12:52

Garlic, couldn't resist the 'goat' quip.

But hey the goat could dry the laundry. Just tie it to a rotary dryer (obviously inside) & get DCs to chase the goat round.
Washing spins & the rotation of the air helps the washing dry. Grin

Darkesteyeswithflecksofgold · 03/10/2012 12:56

MrsBucketxxWed 03-Oct-12 09:00:39

i do think that benefit money should not be spent in cigarettes and alchohol, smart phones or whatever luxury they seem to be spending it on.

So if someone on benefits wanted to buy cosmetics from you as an Avon rep if you were doing Avon which after all is a suggestion you made on this thread you would refuse to sell to them on principle i take it!

AGoldenOrange · 03/10/2012 13:01

I get CB, I would rather shove the £20 note up the arse of whoever thought of this then use fucking vouchers.

Anyway if some people want to spend money on booze and fags then they will do regardless. My local shop takes the milk vouchers for payment on anything.

GolfOscarLimaDelta · 03/10/2012 13:08

AGoldenOrange! Don't be so bloody ridiculous.

Everyone knows there's no room for a £20 note up any politicians arse. It's already crammed with a silver spoon or Some corporates nose!

Glitterknickaz · 03/10/2012 13:09

Do you all also have three disabled children who regularly soil? Daily?
I try to use good ol' fresh air. I wouldn't have enough radiators otherwise though.

Darkesteyeswithflecksofgold · 03/10/2012 13:10

MrsEdinburghWed 03-Oct-12 12:52:22

Garlic, couldn't resist the 'goat' quip.

But hey the goat could dry the laundry. Just tie it to a rotary dryer (obviously inside) & get DCs to chase the goat round.
Washing spins & the rotation of the air helps the washing dry.

I litterally nearly psmled at this. This has to win the MN funniest comment of the week award.
I cant get the image out of my head of kids chasing a goat around a flat/house.

SunWukong · 03/10/2012 13:13

Nicotine is the best anti depressant in the world, someone who's been long term unemployed and is depressed and sees no future, getting insulted by middle class idiots all the time and old farts endlessly saying that in their day they walked 500 miles to work and ate horse poo pies, should get the bloody stuff on prescription.

So what if the get cancer and die, less pensioners to feed in the future, or more accurately less to leave yo freeze to death.

Wordsmith · 03/10/2012 13:15

Why don't we just paint all unemployed people green and make them wear a sticker if we want to humiliate then?

Glitterknickaz · 03/10/2012 13:19

Well I used to be classed as 'employed' as a carer, albeit on 32p an hour.
Not now though, oh no. Carers are evil shits who sponge.