Save the Children launches appeal for children in the UK

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And it will get worse :(

How are tax credits and workfare and enough hours relevant to stories about tin baths?

The fact whether you like it or not, is that people did have it harder when our grandparents were children.

re's nothing at home. If I don't get this food I'll end up shoplifting," he says. A sign on the wall, written in chalk on a menu blackboard, advises him: "Psalm 25 vs 8: the Lord is good and does what is right."

Until 18 months ago there were no food banks in Coventry; now there are 11 across the city. There has been a similarly dramatic rise in the food bank phenomenon nationwide. The largest network of food banks in the UK, the Trussell Trust, a Christian charity, has doubled the number of people it feeds over the past year and reports that three new food banks are opening every week.

A large crowd in the Hope Centre are from Romania, and say they are waiting for food because collecting scrap metal and washing cars isn't enough to make ends meet. A bigger number is there because of benefit delays and cuts, or simply because they are no longer able to make their low wages stretch.

A local supermarket has delivered a load of stock just about to reach its sell-by date (it doesn't want to be named, to avoid getting caught up in discussion of the merits of giving food that is about to go off to the hungry) and today it is offloading industrial quantities of iced buns, which several families take home by the dozen
See Complexo the "foreigners you mentioned are managing no better than the British are!

I think we might be going back to those days sometime soon...

Makes me laugh atmy sons old school there were many who would fall in to what is laughably called poverty one little girl who always looked rather shabby in my view was on free dinners turned up to prom in a heleicopter

My oh said to the mum on the night that must of cost a pretty penny she replied she been saving up all year

My oh said it showed she didnt get it at all

And i am prettty sure these people would say they are poor

Its like when the riots were going on you actually had young people claming poverty with the £££££ blackberry thay had planned the looting on and there ££ tracksuits

Sorry i for one am sick of giving these people handouts to have many children to raise them badly

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Source from where i copied and pasted the above.

www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jul/18/food-banks-on-hand-outs

And a copy and paste from what i posted on the Guardian site last night.

This is by memory now so i will do my best but there was an article on food banks in last months Marie Claire. They mentioned Oxfam GB the British arm of Oxfam.
Apparently this is how Oxfam GB came about..... Oxfam workers from India came to England for a big conference. While here the Indian delegates had a look around our inner cities and were shocked by what they saw. At the conference they pointed out to the British delegates that if the situation was reversed and the British had come to India the British would not be shy in asking Oxfam India what they intended to do about it!
Suitably embarrassed into facing the fact that yes poverty does happen on your own doorstep Oxfam set up their GB arm.
This seems to be a habit everywhere. People denying whats happening on their own doorsteps and not wanting to face it.

I saw an article about homeless east europeans. They couldn't afford to go back after their jobs ended and were sleeping on the streets. (in the UK)

I blame temporary contracts.

Plus people are renting out their sheds and a lot of the tenants are immigrants.

Britain 2012 FFS

If you have no money but still smoke and drink

First thats piss poor parenting
Seconed you are a cheeky feck for coming cap in hand for more money
If your child is hungery your priortys are worng

My nan lives in the carribean were there is no welafre she was left a widow at 30 with four children and earned around $600 a month my mum never went hungery

Some times they had porridge, some times they had bread and jam sometimes they had vegatble soup but i can never remeber my mum saying she was hungery

Why haven't you mentioned large flat-screen tellies yet, MrsBo? You're not on form tonight.

Or goats

Darkesteyeswithflecksofgold please point to sats on homelss familes with children ( i dont mean temp acomadation i mean lving on the street)

please point me to the stats on children who have straved due to lack of food(bar those who have starved due to neglect rather than lack of money)

You wont be able to because it dosent happen in indea chikdren live with there familes in tents by open swears so i am socked they were shocked by single mainly polish buy all accounts sleeping on the streets of london

You have women in indea selling their wombs just to pay school fees many homelss people due to drink,mental health issue and drugs would be unable to hold down a permant home

I do some work with in a soup kitchen and what shocked me how many have hostles but choose yes choose to sleep on the street because they have to be absernate in order to keep their place

expatinscotland one word bright house
:)

Or two:)

The problem
With food banks being referral only (and I know they would be swamped otherwise) is that all non universal benefits have a low uptake due to various factors like them not bring advertised etc.
We have at least 2 food banks here now - I went to the launch of one a few years back. Thru used to be mostly used by refugees and asylum seekers - I never thought they would become so mainstream

I could add some v genuine tales of benefit recipients being useless with money but it's a bit smug really. I feel v lucky I can rent a nice house in a nice area and that I can buy dd adequate food and clothing etc without having to starve to pay for it. It's not really luck though, I am qualified and employed with reasonable job security, affordable childcare and so on which I'd down to a life choice and a bit of a struggle a few years back but things could have turned out very differently and I still feel blessed.

In countrys were there is REAL poverty theri is no bright house no one rents tellys because they cant afford it

'I never thought they would become so mainstream '

It is in the US.

My dc go to an inner city school where 60% of the intake claim FSM. From my observations are lot of the parents get into debt by borrowing to finance things such as Xmas and summer holidays, designer gear, car or send money abroad for relatives. However I have little sympathy for people who tell you they are so hard up that they can't afford to feed their dc whilst simultaneously chain smoking. I also think the benefits system encourages people to have children who they can never afford to feed and clothe without a big handout from the welfare state.

How do the foreigners who come here on limited visa and barely speak english manage

I can answer this one. My fiancee, her sister and their cousin have all come over here from an Eastern Europe country (EU member before anyone asks).

The cousin came over a year ago after being made redundant from his degree level engineering job. Opportunities are limited over there. So he came over despite having little money and poor English skills and after a short time found a job working the dead of night shift for a factory supplying a supermarket. He's worked damn hard and got as much experience as he can. Now he's landed a better job and his shift supervisor was gutted because as he put it, he's going to struggle to fill this vacancy. We can go on all we like about how there are no jobs out there but the fact is that there are jobs out there but often not the jobs we'd like.

My fiancee and her sister also started in factories working via agencies. Both have now thanks to hard work and dedication found better jobs. My fiancee works in finance for a local housing association and her sister was promoted internally within the factory and now a purchasing manager.

The point I make is that none of them arrived in this country expecting handouts. They all find it incredibly ironic that so many locals slag off immigrants as a drain on the system when the reality is most are never entitled to benefits anyway and people like them are actually paying taxes towards benefits rather than leeching from them.

Mumsy its always the parents whose children dont attend innercity schools who will tell you the parents we describe dont exsit

What is all this shit?
Why the very fuck are people comparing first world economies to third world ones?

Relative poverty my arse. When a family hasn't got the money to feed all the family members (often parents going without so the kids eat), when the roof over their head is in such disrepair they might just as well be in a tent.... THAT is poverty.

And it happens in the UK. Often to working families.

There will ALWAYS be somebody worse off. That doesn't mean we shouldn't as a society try to make things better so that everyone has adequate housing and enough food to sustain them.

Why the bloody hell are some people on this thread comparing what is happening in this country to what is happening in other countries.
Surely the idea should be to bring their living standards UP not to bring ours DOWN.

And workfare DOES affect this. People in very low paid jobs CANT get their hours upped because those extra hours they would have had are being filled by workfare.

Exactly, Darkest

Why should we be grateful that we are not yet as badly off as some countries? It is so Monty Pythonesque.

Ooh, you don't have it bad at all. We had it bad, when our Da used to work down t'pit and we shared a 2 bedroom house with 6 other families...

There is simply not the money and the will of the squeezed middle to pay out more has gone.

What is Monty Pythonesque is someone who has 4 children all with blackberrys and nike tracksuits on itv during the riots pleading poverty you couldnt make it up.

What is Monty Pythonesque is delegaets for inda being "outraged" when people from have to crap in the river they dink and wash in because their is no sanatiation

And the left pretending that children forced to tawl rubbish tips is the same as somone who wont use birthcontrol which is free no less living of 25k on welfare

Who is affored free education
Free health care
Free school dinners
Uniform grants
Free travel

Montey could write a gag like that if he tried