Jean Charles Ximenez...the Brazilian shot dead by the police....

[moondog]

was he in UK illegally?
There seemed to be some vague things said about a forged visa then it went quiet....

I think it turned out to be a minor thing, like not changing one form for another etc
OR I reckon they may well have shoved it all under the carpet, it would have looked bad form to bring it up as a counter claim tbh
Not that it could look good I suppose given the murder and all.

Well that's what I thought...would look tasteless to say he shouldn't even have been here.
Would still like to know though...

Well that's what I thought...would lo>ok tasteless to say he houldn't even have been here.

The police did indeed pander to racism in the form of our immigration laws. They calculated that to label him an illegal immigrant would undermine sympathy for him.

Alas, for the police and readers of the Daily Mail, this man was here perfectly legally. His passport was in order, and he was working for a living, not on benefits.
He was a model citizen, really really clean, cleaner than most people here. We know this since if there had been even one little thing, the media and police would have found it.

I'm not sure whether it's good or bad that the commissioner of the Metropolitan police couldn't fit up someone well. Is being stupidly incompetent at whipping up racism a good sign or a bad one ?

As we all know, the people who carried out the bombing were all 100% legal Brits.

All of them carried identification, in the form of credit cards etc, and the 9/11 people had valid passports. How ID cards stop terrorism completely defeats me. It just creates "offences" that allow the police to harass non-white poeople.

God, I sound like a leftie here, which is odd since most people see me not that way at all. If people like me see the police as incompetent racists, supporting an oppressive ID card policy, what hope is there ?

I think he was here on a student visa which had run out, so he hadn't come into the country illegally, but shouldn't have been working, and should have renewed his visa. As far as I remember.

He came into the country on a student visa, which ran out. He did have a work visa, but it turned out to have been forged. In all probability (according to my immigration lawer bf who has contacts in that community) the visa was forged by one of the dodgy immigration companies that fester all over Brixton and it's surrounds.