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Judge bans BBC from showing docu-drama about riots

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Empusa · 17/07/2012 19:42

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"The BBC has pulled a film about the experiences of rioters during last summer's disturbances just hours before it was due to be broadcast after a ruling from a judge. The film, due to be broadcast on BBC2 at 9pm on Monday, was a dramatisation based on the testimony of interviews conducted for the Guardian and London School of Economics research into the disorder.

The programme, part of a two-part series, features actors who play anonymous rioters speaking about their experiences of the riots last August. The BBC said in a statement: "A court order has been made that has prevented the BBC from broadcasting the programme The Riots: In their own Words tonight. We will put it out at a later date.""

"The ruling from a judge prevented the docu-drama, which had been due to be broadcast on BBC2 at 9pm on Monday, from being broadcast "by any media until further order"."

"For legal reasons, the Guardian cannot name the judge who made the ruling, the court in which he is sitting or the case he is presiding over. However, it is understood that lawyers for the BBC strongly object to his ruling, the nature of which is believed to be highly unusual."

Wonder what on earth is in this docu-drama that has meant it's been banned?! Seems unusual to not be releasing any information on why it's been banned.

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carernotasaint · 18/07/2012 15:42

AND the BBC were saying on Monday that G4S security guards simply hadnt turned up for work which was not the case.
It was only yesterday that the truth started to come out. One mum spent 18 hrs on the phone trying to find out when and where her son was meant to go. the BBC always seem very keen to blame the workers before being fully cognizant of the facts. And people call them left wing PMSL.

EightiesChick · 18/07/2012 15:45

'Left wing' when applied to describe media institutions really means 'not completely and utterly right wing in every respect, in fact possibly making reasonably attempts some of the time to be balanced, and often a bit anxious about upsetting the status quo / those in power'

Ryoko · 18/07/2012 16:01

They can do what they like, you may be able to hide the views of discontent and feelings of unfairness from the public at large, but you can't stop the individual feeling as such and the riots will happen again.

only way to stop it is to create fairness in society, stop demonising the poor, stop letting the rich off scot free, stop giving special treatment to mates and backers and let the justice system be truly blind. but that will never happen and I fully expect another riot around the Olympics.

carernotasaint · 18/07/2012 16:15

Totally agree Ryoko. It will happen again. I think they certainly regard it as a big possibility hence the panic over the G4S failure.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that they were relying on #workfare to fill some of these positions but after the furore around the jubilee stewards they prob thought better of it.
It just seems to be too much to ask and beyond the comprehension of some people that they need to be paid a proper wage and the hours need to be guaranteed not a zero hours contract on the off chance you might be needed FFS.

carernotasaint · 18/07/2012 16:17

only way to stop it is to create fairness in society, stop demonising the poor, stop letting the rich off scot free, stop giving special treatment to mates and backers and let the justice system be truly blind. but that will never happen and I fully expect another riot around the Olympics.

Agree with EVERY word.

meewan · 18/07/2012 16:19

What you expect? On the BBC board sits Marcus Agius, Chairman of Barclays Bank

carernotasaint · 18/07/2012 16:20

I didnt actually know that meewan. Well well quelle surprise!

meewan · 18/07/2012 16:32

Bank of England had so far Quantative Eased £375 billions. We are not allowed to know either who are the precipitants. There is no democratic accountability and it is about £24,000 per family, we have paid through high inflation of petrol and food prices caused by the quantative easing, yet the bankers are pocketing the bonuses made from these easing monies.

No MPs, see fit to ask the questions either.

adeucalione · 18/07/2012 16:34

meewan - not true regarding media blackout, it's on the Telegraph website now.

FrothyOM · 18/07/2012 16:35

Agree with Ryoko. And I think there will be riots again once all this rain stops, and the schools are out for summer. Sad

adeucalione · 18/07/2012 16:39

Meewan - can you explain how quantative easing has led to high inflation?

Only I thought that inflation was only a risk if it was more effective than intended, and there is little evidence that banks are lending out reserves at all at present.

LaurieFairyCake · 18/07/2012 16:49

I'm actually surprised how compliant the public are actually and surprised the riots stopped.

I have no idea why we have so little crime in this country sometimes.

Ryoko · 18/07/2012 16:51

Proper wage is a bone of contention anyway everything is relative if they didn't allow everything to run riot (pardon the pun) we wouldn't be in such a state, why is it that companies like EDF have caps in their own home country yet here are free to charge what they like, and rent rises to the heavens unimpeded.

And now they speak of Railway upgrades that will be paid for by increased fares, who is left to pay them? who will be better off travailing to work then unemployed on benefits?

The answer isn't the whip, the answer isn't to cap benefits and punish a nation but to put a cap on greed and stop this madness before it's too late.

meewan · 18/07/2012 17:16

Adeucalione

Quantative easying - Bank of England creates money out of thin air, digital electronic money, this devalue the Sterling, and makes the petrol and food we import more expensive (Low value sterling does help with the export, make our export price more competitive).

There is no proof the £375 billions eased to the banks and some corporates have actually reached us.

ttosca · 18/07/2012 17:20

Cogito-

So what would be the ideal? A sponsorship-free non-commercial Olympics with 100% of the costs being footed by the UK taxpayer? National ballots on all decisions? Elected representatives on the various committees?

In response to your straw man, the answer is: democracy not being subverted to corporate interests.

meewan · 18/07/2012 17:25

Ryoko

Proper wage? Paypal is paying no wage at all, It legal department in Surrey is almost staffed entirely with interns and they change these interns every 3 months. Paypay has moved its registration to Luxembourg, the tax, or thieves haven, so it is paying no UK corporation tax in the UK while able to tap in our free workers who are paid for by the tax payers, namely the benefits,and using these young free workers to fob off the customers,ombudsman and the regulators.

It is known that Paypal gets away with this by hiring a Member of the Parliament's business for their lobbying activities.

adeucalione · 18/07/2012 17:35

meewan - you referred to inflation originally but I see now that you actually meant to talk about currency devaluation.

Ryoko · 18/07/2012 17:38

It's in the hands of the people to make a change meewan, short of riots and hatred, people can just stand up and say no, far days pay for far days work it is up to the individual to have a shred of common decency and honour.

I'd rather spend my life in a shop door front at night and living out of bins then compromise my sense of common decency tis shame others would sell their gran for a few pennies but such is life, we need to fight against such things I'm sure many feel a moral line has been crossed but are too frightened to do anything, we must learn the lessons our French brothers and sisters have show show.

Ryoko · 18/07/2012 17:41

Graft* not gran and shown.

flatpackhamster · 18/07/2012 18:48

ttosca

In response to your straw man, the answer is: democracy not being subverted to corporate interests.

I think it's very significant that whenever you're asked to be specific about your solutions, you always take your answer back to the most general level imaginable. Why don't you ever provide detail on this magical world of perfection?

EightiesChick

'Left wing' when applied to describe media institutions really means 'not completely and utterly right wing in every respect, in fact possibly making reasonably attempts some of the time to be balanced, and often a bit anxious about upsetting the status quo / those in power'

What I mean is "Getting its editorial line and most of its commentators straight from the Guardian". The BBC's editorial line on any issue - from immigration, to climate change, to homosexuality, to Lords reform, the EU, to the economy - is unavowedly metropolitan, middle-class and left-wing.

ttosca · 18/07/2012 19:59

flatpack-

So when I complain about corporate sponsors having too much control over the terms of sponsorship, Cogito says that I want the Olympics to be entirely state sponsored.

When I reply that he's just created a straw man and that I think democracy shouldn't be subverted to corporate interests, you create another straw man and say that I want a 'magical world of perfection'.

Is this how you two always debate? Are you able to deal with the arguments on their own terms, or do you have to always resort to straw men?

In answer to yet another straw man: Corporate sponsors should not have as much say in what be worn, said, broadcast, or displayed. Those corporate entities who are unhappy with this should look elsewhere; there will be plenty - dozens - of other corporate sponsors lining up for exclusive rights.

In any case, in a real democracy it's not up to the government to arbitrarily decide when free speech should be suspended on the basis of merely pleasing corporate entities.

ttosca · 18/07/2012 20:03

What I mean is "Getting its editorial line and most of its commentators straight from the Guardian". The BBC's editorial line on any issue - from immigration, to climate change, to homosexuality, to Lords reform, the EU, to the economy - is unavowedly metropolitan, middle-class and left-wing.

I'm not so sure about middle-class or left-wing - probably more 'progressive' than left-wing, but there is plenty of right-wing and conservative views expressed as well.

If you want to complain about things like climate change and homosexuality, it indicates to me that you're just out of step with the 21st Century. You do agree with women's suffrage, right?

amicissimma · 18/07/2012 20:19

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FrothyOM · 18/07/2012 20:54

BBC2 will be telling the police's side of the story tonight at 9 if my telly guide is to be believed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-police and i'm certainly not pro-riot, but there are two sides to every story. It's important everyone in society has freedom of speech even if they are criminals.

FrothyOM · 18/07/2012 21:03

It's been changed to some shit about world war 2. Even the police have been censored!