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*Family* of killer evicted

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JanH · 03/03/2006 20:29

The family of one of the men who killed Anthony Walker is being evicted from their local authority home - \link{http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-5661347,00.html\Guardian report}

That's not right or reasonable, surely? Why not just send them to jail too?

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Caligula · 03/03/2006 22:30

"He had jabbed a lit cigar into the eye of City team-mate Jamie Tandy at the club's Christmas party."

Um... shouldn't he be up before the beak?

edodgy · 03/03/2006 22:33

I would hope so but apparently notAngry

Caligula · 03/03/2006 22:34

Incredible that a football club can overlook a serious assault like that.

sparklymieow · 03/03/2006 22:38

Shock can understand the reasoning behind the eviction order tbh. My neighbours are the most lovely people you could meet, but they have horrible sons, do they deserve to be evicted for their sons crimes??? I don't think they should tbh, but if they were aware of their sons actions towards us (which i am not 100% sure they did) then yes they should have been evicted. The sons also commited a serious crime while living at their parents house, but to punish the parents for something that happened while they were not with their sons, would appear unfair and unjust tbh. Though tbh, if my son/daughters had commited a serious crime, i would not want to stay in the area anyway.

sparklymieow · 03/03/2006 22:40

can't understand..

mumxx · 01/10/2006 07:56

Just found/read all this thread, It just makes me realise how understanding and misunderstanding people can be, summising and interpreting what they read in the papers and what is hearsay. Most of the supposed facts following what happened are "cultivated to shock" by the media.
Have just about had enough of all of this interpretation on our families behalf. Please dont think Im having a go , Im not(most of you were surprisingly unopinionated), its just that it is so dangerous to assume and interpret. What seem like harmless chat hurts soo much. Wont be posting anymore now as i am that paranoid about who i am and dont think i can talk about it anymore. - Just to say It could be anyone of you, please dont assume it wont be, and that your life will always be whiter than white and please never judge from what you read in the papers, look after you children, even once they have "grown up" mumxx.

tiredemma · 01/10/2006 08:27

Could write so much about being a family member in the same position- only havent really got time ( off to watch ds play rugby) but mey come back later.

Only will say at the moment that I have NEVER been in trouble with the police, but have been treated like crap by police/probation/prison officers/PUBLIC all because of my brother, and tbh- it does stink, it stinks a lot. We have been through hell just because we are related to someone who DID get in trouble with law.

May post later about it.

fattiemumma · 01/10/2006 08:51

Im in HA accomodation at the moment nad have just had a written warning becasue my front lawn hasn't been mowed! its about 2' so not exactly overgrown,.....there is a huge demand for housing and they seem to use the smallest excuse to want to get people out of the properties.

If the son was a resident then it may be that the family was given a couple of warnings because of anti social behaviour? but the conviction was a relativly long time ago so don't know why they are only evicting now.

edam · 01/10/2006 09:12

How bizarre. Agree with everyone else, you can't evict people because a relative is a criminal, however bad the crime. If the tenants have done something wrong, evict them for that!

GeorginaA · 01/10/2006 09:13

Fattiemumma - do you mean 2"? 2 FOOT of grass I'd lose my kids in

fattiemumma · 01/10/2006 09:17

lol no 2 inches...if that.

its utterly ridiculous. the only reason its thathigh is because it dodnt grow at all over teh summer and its only grown now becasue of all the rain...which means i cant cut it as its so wet.

mumxx · 01/10/2006 09:20

oh this is going round in circles, I picked up this thread because there had been too much summising, actually wasnt evicted, left rather than be pushed, besides after all the previous stuff in the papers it was a bit of a relief to be somewhere else

Twiglett · 01/10/2006 09:22

Mumxx

It must be SO difficult to have a bunch of strangers discussing objectively something that is happening / has happened to you as a family.

I don't remember the case at all (due to poor health I had a stint of not knowing what was going on in the world) .. but I've scanned this thread and it seems that people felt what was happening (happened?) to you was totally unjust

I hope you and your family are surviving and re-discovering happiness

Twiglett · 01/10/2006 09:24

the guardian report is no longer there so I still don't know what anyone's talking about .. hope I haven't spoken out of turn

mumxx · 01/10/2006 09:30

Thankyou twiglett, (you just mad me cry), somtimes I am afraid to speak, it is so sensistive, things get reported by supposed friends, it feels a bit safe here but still I dont feel comfortable. My LO's are getting on with it, we will never be away from it though, all our lives will never be the same, and for that I am deeply sorry.

Freckle · 01/10/2006 09:30

I'm a little bemused as to why this thread has been resurrected. If you don't want people talking about what has happened (and this was in the news so obviously people are likely to discuss it), why drag up a thread which died over 6 months ago?

I hope you and your family have settled somewhere where you can live relatively anonymously and happily.

mumxx · 01/10/2006 09:31

Freckle you dont have to post if your going to be negative, I didnt ask for that, go away and look after your family

Freckle · 01/10/2006 09:34

I wasn't trying to be negative. I was just puzzled as to why a very old thread was resurrected with a plea not to summise and discuss the matter.

I'm sorry if you took it that way. That was not my intention.

mumxx · 01/10/2006 09:34

I wasnt re opening this thread for debate, I was having my say, an opportunity which doesnt come up very often, sorry if you dont understand that freckle, but i really am past caring

fattiemumma · 01/10/2006 09:39

Twigg - from what i remember the young lad stabbed a black boy with an ice pick??

he was the half brother of a professional (but relativly unknown) footballer...i think they had the same dad but had grown up completly speratly and had nothing to do with each other.

the footballer appealed for the lad to come forward.
I dont know if the boy was caught or handed himself in though.

MumXX - it must be horrific to be going through all that you are and then to discover youa re being spoken about. i hope that i have not offended you in any way by my reply.
I hadn't read through the thread, justthe OP and it didn't surprise me. as i said, my own experiance of HA isnt a good one.

I hope you and your family are now settled and are able to go on with your lives without this stigma hanging over you,.

Freckle · 01/10/2006 09:40

Then it would appear that we have both misunderstood each other and I'm sorry for that.

Twiglett · 01/10/2006 09:45

I think you ARE entitled to your say mumxx .. and if you would like to use mumsnet as a forum to speak then please do

but you will find most members outspoken in their views, so you may be hurt by some things .. but knowing this site as I do I am sure you will, as a mother, also receive some support.

But it is up to you ..that's the beauty of a website .. you can turn it off

I hope in the real world you have people to speak to and professionals who are helping you and your family come to terms with something that for most of us is purely unimagineable

fattiemumma · 01/10/2006 10:01

What wise words from Twigg.

please do continue to use our forum to discuss how you are feeling.
I am sure there are many mothers on here, particularly with teens that can empathise with you about how difficult it can be.

there will, as Twigg says, be people out there who will judge without truely understanding....sadly its a factor of todays society that we blame the parents for everything a child does.

you just need to learn to not read the threads that offend..its a long and hard lesson but it makes for an easier nights sleep

mumxx · 01/10/2006 10:30

I have very quickly developed a thick skin, thankyou very much. I have occasionally posted, but it is very hard to trust when talking about this as so many "facts" are so wrong, without offending anyone, who will just think Im defending my family by being selective about these "facts". We have had a lot of support but also have seen a lot of true colours. Please dont feel sorry for me and DP though, we are adults we can cope. The people who need the feelings and the kind words are those who lost, I cant even say his name. and my LO's who thank god were never brought into it but have had their fair share of abuse.

I do post regularly, but as the person I wish I was, and i know most of you are all very kind

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