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Barclays diamond to resign

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IDontDoIroning · 03/07/2012 08:04

About time too. Although I did read last week he would get £2 million.

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SundaeGirl · 03/07/2012 08:06

Good riddance. Please God do not let him start showing up on remuneration committees elsewhere...

IDontDoIroning · 03/07/2012 08:09

Apparently Agius has been reappointed - ???

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flatpackhamster · 03/07/2012 08:52

Why do you think he's resigned? Is it because he's an Evil Banker Who's Evil or is it because it means he has free reign to openly criticise the Bank of England and the Financial Services Authority when he appears before MPs today?

Did you know that Barclays believed that the Bank of England had told them rigging LIBOR was OK?

The rot is in the regulatory structure. The one created by Labour.

OlympicFlame · 03/07/2012 08:58

Robert Peston said he felt he had been hounded out by MPs. And will essentially spend the next year being interviewed and questioned about this matter so that he wouldn't have time to run the bank.

I'm depressed about it all. I'm very tempted to leave Barclays, but as I've said in another post, I'm not sure if there are any better alternatives.

EightiesChick · 03/07/2012 09:23

Go to the Co-op.

I am pleased to see Diamond's resigned, but then again he owns shares worth about £20 million and will get a big payoff. Those responsible should be prosecuted for their criminal activity, whatever organisation they work for.

slug · 03/07/2012 10:25

So Bob Diamond has fallen on his wallet.

I wonder who will be the next to go.

edam · 03/07/2012 18:57

Grin nice phrase, slug.

flatpack, nice try at blaming the regulators but it's stretching it a bit too far to pretend they are the only ones to blame. The FSA didn't hold the bankers at gunpoint and order them to cheat and lie.

The banking and entire financial industry is rotten to the core. We've seen scandal after scandal, seen the real economy brought to its knees by the bankers and traders, seen customers and taxpayers exploited - and this is only the start of this latest scandal. No doubt more skulduggery will be revealed as the Libor story unfolds.

We need root and branch reform - of the kind Sweden very sensibly carried out when they had their own banking scandal a decade or so ago. No more spivs and gamblers holding everyone else to ransom. No more senior employees taking all the profits while taxpayers take the pain. No more politicians in hock to the banks. Just as Murdoch's hold on politicians and the police has been broken, so must the bankers'.

SardineQueen · 03/07/2012 19:05

@ it all being the regulators fault Grin

flatpackhamster · 03/07/2012 21:47

edam

flatpack, nice try at blaming the regulators but it's stretching it a bit too far to pretend they are the only ones to blame. The FSA didn't hold the bankers at gunpoint and order them to cheat and lie.

When there's corruption in any field, the regulation and policing of that field is important. If - as Gordon Brown did - you make a system which encourages corruption, then corruption will take root. I didn't, of course, pretend that regulators were the only ones to blame although it's easier for you to dismiss my arguments be pretending that I did.

The banking and entire financial industry is rotten to the core. We've seen scandal after scandal, seen the real economy brought to its knees by the bankers and traders, seen customers and taxpayers exploited - and this is only the start of this latest scandal. No doubt more skulduggery will be revealed as the Libor story unfolds.

Indeed. We're already seeing evidence of collusion from senior members of the Treasury under Gordon Brown. Perhaps that'll also be the fault of the bankers and not Labour?

We need root and branch reform - of the kind Sweden very sensibly carried out when they had their own banking scandal a decade or so ago. No more spivs and gamblers holding everyone else to ransom. No more senior employees taking all the profits while taxpayers take the pain. No more politicians in hock to the banks. Just as Murdoch's hold on politicians and the police has been broken, so must the bankers'.

Yes, and I'm sure an economy whose primary industries are wind turbines, tofu and the BBC will pay for all the Sure Start centres in the galaxy.

Who do you think forced taxpayers to bail out RBS and Northern Rock, and who do you think forced Lloyds to take on HBOS?

edam · 03/07/2012 22:17

You are clearly determined to make this all about Gordon Brown. I think it's rather bigger than that.

scaredycat12 · 03/07/2012 22:43

I think that the BofE and the FSA decided they wanted Diamond out of Barclays and fined Barcalys ahead of the other banks knowing the furore which would result would create a media bloodbath which would be the end of Diamond.

They are investigating 12 or more banks - why did the Barclays investigation finish first?

nepkoztarsasag · 03/07/2012 23:23

Flatpackhamster is in the moral position of someone who, observing a crime, condemns the police for not preventing it. S/he absolves the criminal from any blame.

RichManPoorManBeggarmanThief · 04/07/2012 02:49

But if the BofE did put pressure on Barclays to reduce their LIBOR estimate by implying that "everyone else is doing it, so be a good chap and play along" (which it appears they did), then isnt Diamond being somewhat scapegoated and the wider question is who was pressuring the BofE to lean on BD? ......or did they do this on their own initiative, knowing that reduced LIBOR estimates would make things appear better than they were, thereby avoiding a complete collapse of the banking system? (in which case we enter a whole new debate about whether the ends justify the means in a system which was hanging by a thread and largely dependent on perception).

Agree the whole thing stinks, but you don't fix the problem by hanging the scapegoat.

OlympicFlame · 04/07/2012 09:15

Maybe you don't 'fix the problem' by hanging the scapegoat, but you do send out a strong message!

RichManPoorManBeggarmanThief · 04/07/2012 10:03

Not really. He leaves, gets his 2 million + and goes on the dinner speech tour, when really we need to know if he was getting leaned on, and if so, were the BofE (an allegedly independent body) also getting leaned on?

Now, it might well be that it was considered that it was the lesser of the 2 evils at the time (ST (downwards) manipulation of LIBOR so that liquidity appeared better than it was), and I might well concur with that analysis, but then, is BD really the grand fromage in all this? Hardly.

I'm very suspicious of "ding dong, the witch is gone" celebrations

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