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Closer magazine"s benefit bashing story features a carer.

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carernotasaint · 30/05/2012 21:16

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2152115/UK-benefits-family-12-live-50k-handouts-appear-Daybreak-defend-controversial-lifestyle.html

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Morloth · 01/06/2012 09:17

For all those who suffer migraines. See if you can get some sumatriptan. Life changing.

Birdsgottafly · 01/06/2012 13:58

Have posters actually read the article?

He had his children whilst married and working. He was forced to retire because his job entailed working with dangerous machinery (he collapsed at work). His wife left him.

She worked and had three children. Her husband left her and she had to stop working, she couldn't afford childcare.

They are asking for HA accomodation to get back into work,because their,like many others, rent is to high to afford.

She is keeping her skills up to date and they are raising their children well.

Somewhere there are two other parents who have left the children in their care and are not contributing.

They haven't had children together.

They strike me as two LP who have moved in together and are now trying their best.

The 40 hours that she works will be during school hours, had she had not moved in, the fathers family (8 of them), would have probably needed a support package which would cost a lot more from SS to provide.

Birdsgottafly · 01/06/2012 13:59

"than benefits would" should be on the end.

Codandchops · 01/06/2012 14:38

Well said Birds, it frankly astonishes me that so called intelligent people cannot separate the facts from the propaganda.

TotemPole · 01/06/2012 16:30

He was retired 20 years ago. At most 2 of those in the photo could be late teens or older.

There are 6 out of the 10 living with them. The other 4 must be with family or living independently.

Nancy66 · 01/06/2012 16:33

I don't know which article you were reading Birdsgottafly.

Ian hasn't worked for 20 years and his oldest child is 19 - she he didn't have them while working.

The voluntary hours she works aren't during school hours.

They have both said that they have no intention of working.

The woman has admitted that she doesn't really deserve the carers benefit she gets.

Why are people so reluctant to condemn - astonishing.

If I was a carer I would despise people like this.

TotemPole · 01/06/2012 16:36

Are people reading the article in Closer, is there more detail in that than the DM one?

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carernotasaint · 01/06/2012 21:05

What ive posted above is actually from Closer"s website. They mention the carers aspect of it but in a pared down way. Quelle surprise.

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Birdsgottafly · 01/06/2012 22:52

proud Stephanie has opted to work 40 hours a week in a charity shop for free ? insisting she?s not a ?stereotypical scrounger? and wants to give something back to society

Former shop worker Stephanie ? who says having children stopped her following her dream of teaching ? quit her job in 2003 when she had Charlie.

(Her partner left her)

?As a single mum, I couldn?t afford to work and pay for childcare.?

?I don?t want to fall into the trap of no job, no confidence. I want to meet new people ? and teach my kids a work ethic. My young children think I get paid for working at the charity shop.?

The story changes depending on which article that you read about the family. It looks like they have taken part in a few.

Either way he will no longer receive IB and will have to pass the checks to get ESA, if he is still getting IB, he must have medical back up about his condition.

You refusing to access medical help for your condition, isn't accepted, so he will have to be under medical supervision.

TotemPole · 02/06/2012 01:42

carer, thanks for the link.

We got the upgrade after we told the council we didn?t like our old house

Is that how it works? Tell the council you don't like where you live and they put you in somewhere bigger and nicer?

Nice title! I claim 50k worth of handouts I don?t need!

How do journalists get away with this?

carernotasaint · 02/06/2012 15:15

Because people havent got the money to sue them. Incidentally i also started a discussion on this on the Carers UK website and a member on there crunched the numbers. Over £20"000 of what they recieve each year is going straight to the landlord. Now the most ive ever earned is 12"000 a year. And these journalists are writing and printing this bollocks and it gets believed by people who cant think outside the box or read between the lines. People also have a tendency to believe what suits their agenda rather than look at the bigger picture.

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Nancy66 · 02/06/2012 15:20

What relevance is it where the money goes?

Ok, it doesn't go into their pocket but it still funds their chosen lifestyle.

Most people who work end up handing over a massive percentage to third parties.

MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 02/06/2012 19:03

Nancy precisely!

bobbledunk · 02/06/2012 19:28

I find the whole benefit bashing articles obscene, they pick the least sympathetic families to portray in a bad light so they can justify policies that take from the most vulnerable people the limited support they have and desperately need.

TotemPole · 02/06/2012 19:45

Nancy,

While their rent is all being paid by HB, if their rent goes up or down the amount of benefits they receive changes but the amount they have to live on doesn't change.

For a working person, who is paying their own rent or mortgage, they would have a change in disposable income.

I agree that if he doesn't need caring for then she shouldn't be receiving the carers allowance. That's only part of the £60 a week IB, not the whole £50k as the title suggests.

If all it takes to get rehoused is to tell the council you don't like your current home, why don't all those in emergency/temporary accommodation do just that. I'm sure the families living in B&B don't like where they live.

JosephineCD · 02/06/2012 19:59

The whole "they don't get that much in benefits because a lot of it goes straight to the landlord" argument is bullshit. Would you accept it if a working person said "I only get paid x amount, I get paid x+y but y goes straight out via standing order to the landlord on the same day I get it." No? Well what is the difference?

carernotasaint · 16/06/2012 16:58

Woman magazine ran this story this week. Seems the womens weekly sector is developing a nasty little right wing agenda.

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