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Total smoking ban in pubs and clubs - does this affect offices too?

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Enid · 14/02/2006 19:51

So will smoking be banned in ALL public places now, or just pubs and clubs?

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SenoraPostrophe · 14/02/2006 19:52

the ban is all workplaces although I thought it was already banned in offices?

brimfull · 14/02/2006 19:52

when does this become law,look forward to going to a smoke free pub!!

edam · 14/02/2006 20:21

All enclosed public places except for any exemptions (which they are still arguing about but might be pubs which don't serve food or private members' clubs).

Piffle · 14/02/2006 20:26

all offices are meant to be smoke free already.
A total ban, surely is the only workable solution?

brimfull · 14/02/2006 20:36

why only pubs that don't sell food?

Hulababy · 14/02/2006 21:22

on the BBC

Takes effect from summer 2007.

Total ban, including pubs and private member's clubs.

To be able to go out for a drink and be able to breathe properly - ahhhh!

Hulababy · 14/02/2006 21:24

What was the choice facing MPs?

Option 1: Essentially this was Labour's manifesto pledge to introduce a ban on smoking in all enclosed public places in England, except pubs which do not serve food, and private members' clubs. It was the option agreed last autumn by Cabinet after protracted debate. Championed by ex-health secretary John Reid.

Option 2: A complete ban on smoking in all enclosed public places, including all pubs and private clubs. This was the option the current Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt voted in favour of, after a consultation suggested Option 1 might be unworkable and make health inequalities worse. Championed by health minister Caroline Flint.

Option 3: A complete ban on smoking in all enclosed public places, except for private clubs. This offered another option to MPs facing anger from private clubs, such as Labour/Conservative clubs, working mens' and golf clubs at having a ban imposed on them.

Where will smoking be banned?

Smoking in all public places like pubs, cinemas, offices, factories, public transport and so on will be banned.

Where will you be able to smoke?

People will still be able to smoke outdoors, and in private homes, plus places that Ms Hewitt says are "like homes", such as care institutions, army barracks, and prisons.

When would a ban come into force?

Summer 2007.

I take it that this means OPTION 2 is what has won.

FioFio · 14/02/2006 21:25

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jampots · 14/02/2006 21:26

they already have this in Eire and what a fab law it is too. We spent all day in a bar and didnt even stink!

Hulababy · 14/02/2006 21:29

FioFio - the vote has already taken place.

MPs have voted by huge margins to ban smoking from all pubs and private members' clubs in England.

Bugsy2 · 14/02/2006 21:39

Yup, banned in all public places, including pubs and clubs. Will come into force in 2007.

spacedonkey · 14/02/2006 21:40

They've done this in Italy and Spain (both of which have a far higher number of smokers than us!) already

FioFio · 14/02/2006 21:41

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Hulababy · 14/02/2006 21:43

Really hope it does! Hate smoke when I go out. Loved it when we went to Dublin - to sit in a pub and drink, and later elsewhere eat, ad not come back stinging like an ash tray. Fab!

Piffle · 14/02/2006 21:44

It will work because their is already a backlash against smoking in the UK, people sat near smokers now get pissed off but have no rights
Soon they will and by god, breastfeeding public will become yesterdays media football
My mother is so convinced she'll be hounded, she has actually given up after a 30 a day habit for 42 years!

FioFio · 14/02/2006 21:47

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spacedonkey · 14/02/2006 21:49

No-one thought it would work in Italy - but it has been successful there, so I tend to think it'll work fine here too

FioFio · 14/02/2006 21:50

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Hulababy · 14/02/2006 21:52

We used to think it was okay to smoke on planes and on buses - the majoirty of us now think the fact you can't is totally normal.

Withinin a year of this ban starting it will start to become the norm. After a few more years it will just be the expectation. our children will be suprised that we were ever allowed to.

expatinscotland · 14/02/2006 21:56

Smoking costs soooo much money to the taxpayer. So why the hell won't they let DH try Zyban??

spacedonkey · 14/02/2006 21:57

Completely agree hula - I am always amazed when I think back to the days when people could smoke in cinemas! I am a smoker, but even now it feels all wrong to me to smoke in restaurants (I don't do it).

FioFio · 14/02/2006 21:57

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Hulababy · 14/02/2006 21:59

But Fio - the ban isn't just to protect the healths of children.

What about other adults who don't want to breathe is cigerette smoke or go home smelling of it? What about pregnant women? What about adults with health complaints, especially breathing ones?

Piffle · 14/02/2006 22:00

its not about kids though!

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