Sion Jenkins verdict ..or not...

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verdict

Apparently they get loads....Charles Bronson is inundated with letters every week.
Bonkers programme on a year or so ago about women who married blokes doing time. CB's wife one of many I think) spoke.

i think its an injustice, that poor girl and her family, but we' ll never know the truth, only he knows that

Caligula & Moondog - maybe it is a full blown case of 'bit of rough' syndrome that we relatively normal people suffer from very slightly... Though Charles Bronson - turns my stomach.

I saw a programme recently about women who married murderers etc. Thing that the women on the programme had married men on death row. They had a psychologist on there who basically said that women feel able to do it because they have a sense of safety. They don't feel safe with anyone, but they can have a relationship with someone who is convicted of a serious crime like that because they know that he will never get out and that makes it ok. Pretty weird if you ask me.

um - would that be Charles Manson? (Charles Bronson wasn't the best actor in the world but I don't think he ever went to prison for it )

Unless there's something about Charles Bronson we don't know Janh, lol......

I had a carpenter putting decking in my garden last summer and his son was one of the detectives working on the case and he said they were all convinced he did it and had no worries that he would be convicted.Obviously the jury didn't feel the same.I know nothing about him or the case so can't comment

I actually thought Bronson was an ex-con before he became an 'actor'. Thats my excuse for not realising the Bronson/Manson thing. Yuck to both though.

Oooh,I go weak kneed at a bit of rough (not the murdering kind obviously...)
No,this bloke really is called Charles Bronson. He changed his name by deed poll.
Mind you.Charles Manson (about whom have read an unseemly amount) hasmore than his fair share of admirers too.

Who was he before then, moondog?

Have read bits about Sion Jenkins' violent behaviour towards his first wife, which he supposedly switched on and off in a split second apparently, and it is possible to believe from that that he really could have killed Billie-Jo in a matter of moments and then carried on as if nothing had happened; but if what his first wife says is true, why did she stay with him so long, why did they have 4 children together and why did she go along with fostering a 5th?

I think that he is innocent. His wife's testimony says it all. If he was such a bastard, why foster. Some of my closest friends are Foster carers and believe me they check. I think (and remember thinking at the time of this awful crim), he didn't do it.

I think that his wife wanted to distance herself from this whole tragedy and the fact that her DH perforated her eardrum was the perfect excuse. I also think that the evidence against Sion was shaky.

If you are going to commit someon to jail for 5 years for murder (thats all it is these days) then you have to be sure.

very very hard to walk out on a violent relationship when your self esteem has been battered and your ex charms the birds out of the trees one minute with promises etc and then turns cold, calculating and aggressive. thats prob why the ex stayed with him

Can't remember Jan. Everyone knows him as CB.
Britain's most violent inmate according to the tabloids.

Anyway, back to Sion Jenkins, he was in a recently-obtained position as acting deputy head at a local secondary school at the time of the murder.
This job was obtained via a CV based on lies, one of which was that he had attended Gordonstoun School, plus 85% of his qualifications were fabricated.
The school was in the process of checking his CV before making him deputy head and he knew he would be found out, at the time of the murder.

Call me old-fashioned but the man is therefore a proven liar.

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Oh I know Cod, and in fact this was mentioned at the recent trial according to the papers.

I'm just not sure that most people realise that it is a criminal offence to lie on a CV.

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I think its fraud

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If, and this is a big if, we had the death penalty in this country, I was on a jury that had taken this case I would have to vote no. The police simply didn't follow up the other evidence at the time.

Yes, having been in a violent relationship, I would agree that your self confidence is battered, but I would also say that you would not pass muster under a fostering board. They would have noticed that his wife wasn't quite into it. Also the review board would have picked up on the violence in the home. Well I am assuming they would. If Billie Jo had mentioned it, it would have been investigated. All of this is assumption of course. I believe that these 'incidents' in the home have been escalated to procure this man as the murderer.

The police did not investage thoroughly, therefore as a member of a jury I would not be able to give a guilty verdict.

On the evidence the court appears to have heard I agree entirely UCM.

However the first jury found him guilty and the second 2 could not reach a verdict at all (ie. did not declare "guilty" "not guilty")

So it is interesting that he has never been found "not guilty".