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Paul Dacre at the Leveson Inquiry

388 replies

bananaistheanswer · 07/02/2012 00:35

here

I was going to add comment to the other thread I started here at the beginning of the inquiry but purely for the comedy value alone, I felt this warranted it's own, shiney new thread. The above isn't word for word, just the guardian blog, but there are some crackers in there, and I haven't even got to the end.

Did you know, criticism of the Daily Mail stems from a lack of understanding on how journalism works? Next time you see a thread on here quoting the Daily Mail, just remember, we just don't understand how journalism works. Feast your eyes on the pearls of wisdom dished out by the one and only Mr Dacre, and enjoy...

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noddyholder · 25/04/2012 08:24

Can't wait for today although have a gynaecology appt first thing shall be telling him to get on with it!

BlackOutTheSun · 25/04/2012 12:48

they are handing info over to the US!!!

Ponders · 25/04/2012 13:21

'Adam Smith, the special adviser to the culture secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has resigned, saying he acted without the authority of his boss and that he had allowed the impression to be created of too close a relationship between News Corps and the Department for Culture, Media and Sport.'

Do we believe this? Wink

Damage limitation attempt in full swing...

noddyholder · 25/04/2012 13:40

Wonder what he has been promised for that little action?

BlackOutTheSun · 25/04/2012 18:14

Have to say I loved Dennis Skinner and Tom Watson at todays PMQ's

Also wtf is this??? www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/oct/24/david-cameron-rupert-murdoch?CMP=twt_gu

bananaistheanswer · 25/04/2012 22:16

I've sky+'d PMQs for later. Just seen a snippet of callmedave getting a tad worked up. Skinner's comment 'when posh boys are in trouble, they sack the servants' was I think 'fair comment' Grin

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BlackOutTheSun · 25/04/2012 22:29

ooh it was good Grin

callmedave was getting very annoyed and hunt looked like he was about to burst into tears

margoandjerry · 25/04/2012 22:37

thank god someone's talking about callmedave. I started a sad lonely thread about how he's always just dreadful at PMQs, like a horrible boarding school bully. His advisers need to tell him it's called PMQs because other people are supposed to ask him questions and he's supposed to answer them because he is at the service of the people. He always acts so outraged that he is being questioned - sort of "ugh the plebs are saying something - how dare they?"

I would have thought that after the "Calm down dear" debacle one of his advisers would have had a word but they are probably also Bullingdon Club tossers with a sense of entitlement so maybe don't get that he really lets the mask slip on these occasions.

This Jeremy Hunt thing is such a cock-up and it's a time to look serious and determined to root out cronyism, not get all shouty and red-faced and just generally toff-like.

Ponders · 25/04/2012 22:39

I'm a bit confused about the Parliamentary status of these 'special advisers'

they're not civil service, they're not elected, they are appointed by Ministers - so if one of them makes a mistake, the Minister who appoints them should be where the buck stops, is that right?

But not in this instance...

I do like the likes of Dennis Skinner; like Tam Dalyell, he can say what he likes, pretty much Grin

CallmeDave is well on the back foot here, isn't he?

margoandjerry · 25/04/2012 22:41

yes the Ministerial Code makes it clear that ministers are responsible for their special advisers. I don't know how JH thinks he can hang on at this point.

BlackOutTheSun · 25/04/2012 22:45

The funnist thing I've found is that the only tory they could find to defend Hunt was Gove, you know your screwed

limitedperiodonly · 26/04/2012 09:49

'Adam Smith, the special adviser to the culture secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has resigned, saying he acted without the authority of his boss.'

Didn't that Werrity creature say the same thing a little while ago? Anyone remember what happened to his boss? He had Dave's full support too.

noddyholder · 26/04/2012 12:07

Murdoch is a smooth operator so confident and self assured for his age (even if he is a **)

limitedperiodonly · 26/04/2012 12:55

I'm enjoying him being put in his place and the little comfort breaks Leveson is building in purely to stop Murdoch playing the weak and feeble old codger defence.

I like various points raised including the unlikehood of him not knowing that Eady concluded that NoW journalists blackmailed a woman in the Mosley sting - being told by Leveson to go off and read the judgement!

Also the ridiculousness of not knowing what was going on after the phone hacking trial because he trusted people to tell him but didn't think to enquire when they didn't.

I also liked the 'Iask the questions' putdown from Jay and the lecture from Leveson about having to answer questions following Murdoch's rudeness to Jay and Jay's sarcastic remark that he has a thick skin.

I'm finding Old Man Simpson's periodic banging on the table a bit off-putting.

Wonder what happened round about 11ish when Leveson ordered someone to sit down and stop what they were doing?

I suspect it might have been Wendi getting ready to deliver a karate chop Grin

Ponders · 26/04/2012 13:23

anybody else wonder if Cable's set-up by the Telegraph might have been orchestrated elsewhere purely to get him out of the way so that Hunt could take over? (or am I a conspiracy fetishist? Grin)

Only Hunt, as Shadow Culture Secretary, was in cahoots with the Murdochs about the BSkyB takeover long before the 2010 election...maybe they all assumed it would fall into his remit after the election & didn't expect it to go to the Business Sec?

limitedperiodonly · 26/04/2012 13:55

From what I recall, the Telegraph didn't publish that aspect of the sting.

The information was passed to Robert Peston by a Telegraph source.

Peston is a big friend of News International what with being fed loads of his stories from there.

DeadRisingPies · 26/04/2012 20:27

Murdoch was complaining about press harassment today! His questioner saw the irony, but Murdoch had to be brought to see it.

limitedperiodonly · 28/04/2012 08:48

That 'sit down' rebuke from Leveson was when a solicitor for Linklaters tried to get NI's barrister to intervene during Robert Jay's accusation that there'd been a cover up between NI and the firm of solicitors Burton Copeland NI engaged to look into phone hacking.

Jay went on to point out the NI continued to resist waiving client privilege that would enable Burton Copeland to speak on the subject.

The other legal firm involved (can't remember the name right now) managed to get NI to waive privilege that revealed that NI's terms of reference were so narrow as to be useless.

NI were putting it about that they had authorised a full inquiry and allowing it to be believed that the law firm hadn't looked into it closely because they were incompetent.

Lot of firms of solicitors involved for NI, weren't there? Anyone would think it was an attempt to make sure no firm had a complete overview.

limitedperiodonly · 28/04/2012 08:49

Harbottle and Lewis were the firm who won the right to point that they weren't negligent, just hobbled.

noddyholder · 28/04/2012 13:23

How long before Murdoch is back in bed with Labour? Not long methinks The sun and the sun on sunday about to switch allegiance again apparently Shock

Ponders · 28/04/2012 13:31

I don't think they'll be in bed with any politicians ever again.

(I would just like to say God bless the knee-jerk leftie Guardian for keeping on & on & on about this however much they were derided by the rest of the press & much of Westminster Thanks)

noddyholder · 28/04/2012 13:55

I think Murdoch has stuck the knife in and will now twist it!

PetiteRaleuse · 28/04/2012 14:14

I read sth this week about the rather remote but frightening possibility of the sun papers switching to ukip, their policies being closest to murdoch's. Labour if they want to capitalise on this govts appaling record would do well to not touch NI with a bargepole.

noddyholder · 28/04/2012 14:26

That would be scary! But not impossible

Ponders · 28/04/2012 16:15

Oh I hope they do! that will finally put the lie to the notion that they ever influenced election results, rather than always jumping on the right bandwagon

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