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Do you read the Independent?

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emkana · 21/01/2006 20:32

It's depressing me sooooooooo much, there constantly seem to be "doom and gloom" articles in there - the end is nigh and all that.
Only this week - Lovelock says the point of no return has been reached with global warming, then on Friday special report on how oil is running out fast and civilization will break down.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! I really like the paper, but it's so depressing sometimes?

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emkana · 21/01/2006 20:49

Just me then?

I'll be off then to shoot myself

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Whizzz · 21/01/2006 20:53

No I don't ! Sorry

Read 'Hello' instead & take heart in the fact that despite global warming and an oil crisis, some C list celeb has had Botox and is wearing a frock

Heathcliffscathy · 21/01/2006 20:53

emkana...dh has been banging on and on and on about the oil one. i keep saying: well what shall we do about it to save ourselves and ds...he says, you've got to read the article, this guy is oil industry i really think that it is plausible that there will be no petrol in the next five years [bangs on and on and on and on and on]

arghhhhhhhhh

Gingerbear · 21/01/2006 20:53

No Emkana, I read the Indy too. At least they haven't had the whale?

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emkana · 21/01/2006 20:57

Dh works in the oil industry and says it's all rubbish, there's plenty of oil. But then he is one to bury his head in the sand.

I sometimes think I should just stop reading these kinds of articles, it's not as if there's anything I can do about oil running out...

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Heathcliffscathy · 21/01/2006 20:57

so emkana, i he right? are we doomed? and what should we do about it???? especially given that we have just bought a house in london not some subsistence plot in the outer hebrides????

Heathcliffscathy · 21/01/2006 20:57

so emkana, i he right? are we doomed? and what should we do about it???? especially given that we have just bought a house in london not some subsistence plot in the outer hebrides????

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emkana · 21/01/2006 21:01

I really don't know!

In my more optimistic moments I'm hoping that the problems will cancel each other out - no oil = less pollution = no more global warming
(all accompanied by humanity pulling together to make use of new energy sources)

Makes me feel so helpless and scared, maybe I should just read celeb magazines instead...

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morningpaper · 21/01/2006 21:02

Emkana read the Guardian, it's funnier.

Heathcliffscathy · 21/01/2006 21:02

emkana, you're always starting good threads btw....

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emkana · 21/01/2006 21:04

Oh thanks sophable

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franke · 21/01/2006 21:06

Emkana, I agree with you about the Indie - it does tend to shriek rather hysterically one day and then move onto the next ishoo and shriek about that the next. I just skim it these days - they do some quite good interviews. I find the online Guardian more cheerful (apart from the occasional daft article about hard-done-by chaps whose lives were ruined by kids - arrrrrgh).

edam · 21/01/2006 21:21

I used to read the Indie but have to admit, shamefacedly, have been turned off since they started devoting the entire front page to single issues. I know we should all be alerted to the huge crisis of global warming but I have very little power to change it so constant reiteration of 'We are all doomed, doomed I tell you' doesn't really make me want to read on. Yikes. Am so shallow.

I do turn appliances off, only use the car when really necessary, etc. etc. etc. I'm not burying my head in the sand but what more can I do?

If they told me which part of which country I should be living in order to give ds a chance of surviving global warming, I'd read it!

NotQuiteCockney · 21/01/2006 21:39

Somehow, the indie never seems to have anything I want to read in it. I often see it at my PILs, and goodness knows I'm happy to bury my nose in a paper for an hour there, but somehow, there's nothing there.

The New Yorker keeps running "we're all doomed" pieces, which is particularly apt, coming from the US. I find them particularly frustrating as they're really well-written, convincing, etc etc, but totally preaching to the choir ...

Heathcliffscathy · 21/01/2006 21:42

edam, dh says woking is the answer to your question: they have some amazing green friendly council energy policy...apparently it was in the independent article...and now he's saying he only reads the independent v occasionally (yes and bang on and on and on and on about it)

Heathcliffscathy · 21/01/2006 21:42

that's Woking

LeftOverTurkey · 21/01/2006 22:12

I get the Independent on Saturday just for Deborah Ross. She makes me laugh until I cry, she is particularly on form at Christmas.

Tinker · 22/01/2006 14:12

Yes and agree. I now skip the first few pages. Yes, we're fcking up the planet but there isn't a whole lot I* can do about it.

Tinker · 22/01/2006 14:19

Oh, and they keep offering the Robert Fisk book as the prize for the big Sudoku. I know he's ace etc but I want a digital radio/mp3 player/anything gadgetty if I've managed to do it and win it!

LeftOverTurkey · 22/01/2006 14:47

Has anyone managed to finish the sudoku or is it just me? It gets to Wed (if I am lucky), doing well, or so I think, and blow me if I don't discover a mistake, made god knows when. Then I can't be ar*ed to start again. I am so careless and don't see what is in front of my eyes. Maybe ds gets his dyspraxia from me after all.

I agree about the prize, I want a gadget that I am too mean to buy with my meagre funds.

TeddyRobinson · 22/01/2006 14:54

No. That way, I don't have lie in bed awake worrying about these things! It sounds silly to bury your head in the sand but I am a worrier and I would honestly drive myself mad.

That's not to say I don't recycle or anything like that - of course I know there are things we can do but if I'm lead to believe oil will run out in 5 yrs - what will I be able to do except worry myself stupid?!

TeddyRobinson · 22/01/2006 14:54

Oh, that all sounds a bit contradictory - y'know, what could I do about oil in particular I mean.

Tinker · 22/01/2006 15:50

I have finished it LOT. Twice Once was for the RF book prize - didn't even bother sending it in. But when I do make a mistake, it loses its appeal then

LeftOverTurkey · 22/01/2006 19:10

Well done, Tinker. I'll try again this weekend just for the practice but can't summon up much enthusiasm for the prize, yet another Robert Fisk book.

expatinscotland · 22/01/2006 19:12

no, but one of the fellows in my work writes for them.