Amanda Holden article... Independent male journalist with no kids perhaps?

[EmmaCate]

"There was heartbreak just under a year ago when she lost a child seven months into a pregnancy.

And in 2010 she suffered the ordeal of a miscarriage."

I wasn't aware they were different things, mister. Unless you mean that in early 2011 she was seven months pregnant and out with a kid, who wandered off somewhere.

Article here

I'd get your hardhat at the ready if I were you op because you are going to be slaughtered.

Of course they are different. Losing a child at seven months pregnant is a stillbirth not a miscarriage. So no, it is you who is wrong not the writer of the article...

I thought a miscarriage was if the baby was under 24 weeks and a still born was over 24 weeks. I might be wrong though. And both still heartbreaking.

umm, I dont see an issue. losing a child late in pregnancy and a miscarriage is different. I dont compare my mc's in any way to those who have had stillbirths. I think you are perhaps being tad oversensitive.

They are different things though. Losing a child to mc is horrific but doesn't compare to losing a child to still birth.

To say that you "lost" someone is a pretty standard euphemism for death. I can't see the problem.

Emma, are you a male with no kids? Or are you deliberately obtuse?

Well, they are different. After 24 weeks = stillbirth; before 24 weeks = miscarriage.

I have had the latter, a miscarriage. And yes, I was devasted and left very upset and struggled with it for a while after too. But it was pretty early on. It was the loss of hopes and dreams more than anything else I think.

But a still birth would be much harder. It has to be doesn't it? To give birth to a baby, to hold the baby, knowing nothing could be done. It must be horrific and there is no way I would compare the effects of my miscarriage with the effects of losing a baby so much later in pregnancy.

But Amanda Holden's miscarriage was at 4 months - so a fair bit later on than mine. So, must have been awful too - but if you read some of the articles she has done since, she does herself recognise the difference between the two.

It would be far worse if the two were put together as "two miscarriages".

It is a bit odd that they used more dramatic language for the mc and yet the stillbirth was just 'lost'

My goodness a massive difference between a miscarriage and a stillbirth.

I am by no means minimising the impact of am miscarriage - I had one at 13 weeks and was devastated. But losing an almost full- term baby is in a different league.

I know 3 people who have had both a miscarriage and a stillbirth. They all say you can't compare the two. The stillbirth changed their life forever and they all feel they have a child missing from their family.

I see no problem with the reporting.

The only thing to add would be they a miscarriage is anything under 24 weeks. I know it's devastating for women who miscarry around this time to not have their baby registered and for people to refer to what looks like a "proper baby" as a miscarriage.

I too don't see the problem. I think the journalist sounds sensitive in his choice of words.
Miscarriage is an ordeal (from expereince). Losing a baby as a stillbirth must be heartbreaking, having to go through labour.
My friend had a stillbirth last year and is about to give birth any day now and my thoughts are with her.
I simply cannot compare my grief at suffering a miscarriage at 6 weeks with my friend who had to deliver a baby knowing it had died already.
My friend had to go through labour, she got to hold and dress her baby, take photos, a lock of hair and had a funeral. I did none of those things.

OMG no sorry it's just me being a complete tit. I wasn't trying to be obtuse and I'm sorry. For some reason unknown to me I didn't think about stillbirths.

dont worry op, we've all posted something without thinking it through

EmmaCate - we all do stupid things. And it sounds like your balls up came from a compassionate feeling - i.e. that you felt that loss of Amanda Holden's baby had been somehow undermined in the wording.

The whole story sends absolute chills through me. They have had such a tough time. I hope that she makes a good recovery and everyone is home and healthy soon.

She has been through the mill though hasn't she? A miscarriage, a still-birth (which I find too horrific to contemplate) and now nearly dies herself in the process of giving birth to her third.

I've never taken to her as a presenter but, as a woman, I feel very sorry for her.

You've changed your mind so I'm not going to argue with you
I too got what the writer meant, that the first loss was much earlier... either way Amanda has really been through it though. I was really upset when I heard this on the radio but fortunately it sounds as though they are both going to be ok.

agree with puffpants. she's a woman than I had never liked, but, god, noone deserves what she's been through.

EmmaCate anyone who hasn't posted something and then regretted it or realised it made them sound like a wally is LYING