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Michael Gove, for example, is a twat!!!

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YNK · 16/01/2012 01:21

apps.facebook.com/theguardian/uk/2012/jan/15/queen-royal-yacht-diamond-jubilee-gove

I'm bloody speachless!!

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kittyfishersknickers · 16/01/2012 01:26

I bet she doesn't even want a new yacht.

Dillydaydreaming · 16/01/2012 06:49

Cuts right left and centre - cancer patients facing loss of benefits to save money and Michael Gove wants to spend vast amounts on a yacht. What a stupid little man he is. Then again this shower in Govt will probably agree with him.

EdithWeston · 16/01/2012 06:52

Is there a non-Facebook version of this? It won't open for me.

EdithWeston · 16/01/2012 07:00

Think I've found it.

Did he attach any proposal about where the money would it be found?

The Labour administration had already given the Palace extra public funds for celebrations, which I assume will be committed long ago and cannot make any noticeable inroad into this. If the MoD budget wasn't such black hole, I'd have guessed it would be somehow sprung from there.

It is unusual for one minister to write to another in these terms unless something has already been cooked up behind the scenes on costs. Or unless this administration wants to show that it us incapable of running Whitehall interdepartmental matters in a suitable manner.

YNK · 16/01/2012 10:30

Yes Edith - the article answers all you questions, and he is still a twat!

He proposes the money is raised through taxes! Yes folks, in this day of austerity he makes that proposal!!!

It is the Queens daimond jubilee and even Labour would not suggest snubbing her, however as a staunch monarchist, Michael suggests in his email that enough is not being done and the taxpayer needs to dig into their pockets even deeper - to the tune of £60M!!

How is this man in touch with the country???

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JustHecate · 16/01/2012 10:32

He wants to WHAT? Shock

How bloody DARE they even think about it while at the same time they are taking much needed support away from the most vulnerable in society on the grounds that we can't fucking afford it! Angry

Sevenfold · 16/01/2012 10:33

great target the disabled for cuts, then give the queen a yacht
wtf

Haziedoll · 16/01/2012 10:35

Why doesn't he get on with what he is paid for?

They are so out of touch that it is actually quite alarming. I'm not anti-royal I enjoyed the royal wedding celebrations but to suggest this in the current climate is unbelievable to the point that I'm wondering if the story is made up.

YNK · 16/01/2012 10:35

In fact he says this is needed to raise our spirits in this time of austerity.........How sick a suggestion is that?

I still say hes a twat!

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ValarMorghulis · 16/01/2012 10:35

well of course she needs a yacht.
What respectable 85 year old woman about town can survive without a £60m yacht?

She needs it or else all the other Queens will look down on her.

and lets face it, its not like she gets anything else from her people is it?

YNK · 16/01/2012 10:38

No it's not made up, folks!

Although this was leaked from confidential emails to Nick Clegg and other ministers, Mr Gove has admitted it is real!

Still a twat!

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AbsofCroissant · 16/01/2012 10:41

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16574257

There's the article.

I think someone's angling for a knighthood ... It's quite obvious sucking up though, I'd expect it to be more subtle than "here, let's get you a yacht and may I say you're looking fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine your royal highness?"

Twat.

MrsChemist · 16/01/2012 10:49

I don't know about you guys, but knowing the Queen has a luxury yacht makes me feel so much better about the recession.

ElderberrySyrup · 16/01/2012 10:50

I think Michael Gove and at least one other person in the cabinet (haven't worked out who yet - George Osborne? DC himself?) are having a competition between themselves as to who can wind everybody up the most by outrageously inappropriate speeches and policies.
Gove scored a lot of points with his 'free Bible for every school with introduction by himself' plan but this is his latest move, and it is a pretty good one.

AbsofCroissant · 16/01/2012 10:55

I agree with Mrs Chemist. Nothing says "the economy's not screwed" like the Queen having a new yacht to sail past the starving masses on.

Actually, it sounds more like Marie Antoinette than anything else ... remind me how that ended again?

upthealdi · 16/01/2012 10:57

I just find it astonishing that politicans don't seem to think about the public reaction to what they say.

I loathe Gove with a passion for his appalling free school policies, but I have always thought of him as an intelligent man. But didn't he sit down for a minute and think "Hmm, what will all those teachers/ nurses/ people who have lost their jobs in the recession think about this?"

It's the same with Diane Abbott and the twitter thing...didn't she stop before she hit "send" and think what the reaction would be?

Dh reckons if the government have £60m to spare they should give £1m each to 60 charities to mark the jubilee instead

MrPants · 16/01/2012 10:58

I heard about this on the Today program on R4 this morning - my first reaction was along the lines of WTactualF but it was explained that this would involve no public money whatsoever (they mentioned about a Canadian group with £10 million to commit to this project IIRC) and that the money would be raised by donations and sponsorship.

There was also a plan to use the ship as a training centre for RN cadets, a floating university, a flag waving gin-palace as well as its role as transport for the Queen. Under the circumstances - and especially as no public money is to be committed - i'm in favour of the idea. It should provide some much needed work to our dockyards - even if the resultant ship does become known as the 'Royal Yacht McDonalds'!

Peace and Love.

Mr. Pants.

YNK · 16/01/2012 11:06

The article says it should be funded from taxes and any extra be sought from donations. I think a bit of backtracking is going on as damage limitation.

Anyway even if a private donation of £10M has been identified that still leaves a hefty £50M to be found.

The queen has a fortune estimated to be around £300M. I agree if this money should be spent it should be on the many who are considerably less fortunate.

I actualy no longer think he is a twat. He is in fact a cunt!

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Ponders · 16/01/2012 11:07

'Various efforts have been made to propose a new royal yacht, but have been rejected on the grounds of cost, estimated in 1997 at £60m.'

\link{http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/15/queen-royal-yacht-diamond-jubilee-gove\from the Guardian}

£60m in 97 is probably at least double now.

The Commons & Lords combined have coughed up £85,000 for a stained glass window - about £100 each (though I bet they didn't all contribute Hmm) - Gove prob thinks around £2 a head from the rest of us is quite mean

the man's a fool, & a creep, as well as a twat

Angry
sue52 · 16/01/2012 11:15

Nice to know that despite his job as education secretary he still has time to find new and exciting ways to waste public money.

Bramshott · 16/01/2012 11:15

Surely as the Queen is now 85, something like a nice slanket and a box of violet creams would be a more appropriate present Wink!

sue52 · 16/01/2012 11:17

Maybe the 14% budget cut in education will pay for a nice boat for the Queen.

MrPants · 16/01/2012 12:14

As I say, the article on R4 this morning seemed to suggest that across the commonwealth there are plenty of people willing to put their hands in their pockets to buy the Queen a new boat. If there is a shortfall (and it would be wise to assume that there will be) why is there an assumption that it would only be the British taxpayer who would make up 100% of that shortfall? After all, this would be an asset belonging to the whole commonwealth - surely the other members of the commonwealth (most of which aren't in the grip of a fiscal maelstrom) could also, reasonably, be expected to contribute to the costs.

To look at this from another perspective - and not one that I particularly agree with but I think is worth considering nevertheless - if the appeal raises half of the necessary £60 million and the British government alone offers to make up the remaining outstanding £30 million, the shipyard chosen to build the ship would win an order for £60million worth of work which 'only' costs the government £30 million. If this was a regional regeneration project, £30 million would be very small beer indeed.

For clarities sake, I'm neither calling for, nor in favour of government subsidising industry in the name of regional regeneration, but if the project had been expressed in these terms, it would make some sort of sense.

EdithWeston · 16/01/2012 12:21

If Mr Pants is right, and it is done by subscription, then I wouldn't mind - as it'll have roles beyond the Royal (wasn't it a hospital ship?)

But the leaked letter doesn't seem to be saying that. So there is no clarity on what he's proposing, nor the actual cost. It looks both administratively incompetent and rather silly like this.

I wonder if, by the end of the day, we'll see a cost-neutral sensible proposal (hmm), or frantic attempts at arse-covering?

Highlander · 16/01/2012 12:55

This, I imagine has very little to do with the Tory party, and everything to do with Gove being a sycophantic twat.

DC has probably sent Ken Clarke round to give him fat lip for being so stupid.

Oh, he already has one.

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