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Grenade attack on bus stop in Liege

17 replies

winnybella · 13/12/2011 14:08

Guardian live coverage

Still not clear who was responsible. They say 2 people died, 7 critical, amongst them a 2yo child and over 40 injured.

WTF.

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winnybella · 13/12/2011 14:13

They now say it could have been jail escape attempt.

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BrianButterfield · 13/12/2011 14:20

I used to live in Liege. That part of town was always really crowded with shoppers and marketstalls this time of year. Awful.

grovel · 13/12/2011 16:45

3 dead. 75 injured.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 13/12/2011 17:17

Latest is that it was a man - known to police for firearms offences and due to come in for questioning - stood on a building overlooking Liege's main square, lobbing grenades into the crowd and firing at random. Committed suicide. Very nasty.

BrianButterfield · 13/12/2011 17:39

I can't believe something like this attracts so little notice here Xmas Sad It's the equivalent of something happening in Birmingham - Liege is a large, busy city.

winnybella · 13/12/2011 20:26

I know, Brian Confused

They said it's not clear yet whether he comitted suicide or killed himself by accident.

2 teenage boys dead, one elderly woman Sad And the 18mo is fighting for his life.

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MollieO · 13/12/2011 22:13

Six confirmed dead including a 23 month old. So sad at any time of year but particularly now.

BrianButterfield · 13/12/2011 22:40

Oh, so sad to hear about the little one especially. The Daily Mail website says "Emergency medical teams were called in from as far away as the Netherlands" - as far away as that, eh Hmm - they could at least have looked at a bloody map to see eactly how far it is to Maastricht from Liege...

CogitoErgoSometimes · 14/12/2011 06:22

"attracts so little notice"

It was all over the news last night and again this morning. What coverage are you hoping for exactly?

debka · 14/12/2011 06:27

That's awful, sounds like something from WW2. So sad :(

BrianButterfield · 14/12/2011 08:34

"Here" meant MN. 11 messages, half of them from two people?

AlpinePony · 14/12/2011 08:51

This is horrible, I live less than 30/40 miles from Liege. I don't know what to say, but I do know where you're coming from brian. :(

I think perhaps I don't want to think about it given the revelation of the 18 month old girl today, my son is 18 months and I've been planning to nip to in to Liege for ages (Primark/New Look).

CogitoErgoSometimes · 14/12/2011 08:53

What is there to usefully say besides 'isn't it awful?'.... Aside from the discovery of a woman's body at the gunman's home it seems to be a fairly standard (if you can use such an adjective about a tragic event) lavish suicide preceded by mass random carnage. There's no hunt for the killer because he's dead & not much to speculate about... which is what normally gets these boards jumping, let's face it. If the Belgian police find a note or a YouTube suicide video things might change.

Pantofino · 14/12/2011 08:55

It's dreadful. We've been there a couple of times to the Xmas market - which was meant to open yesterday!!!! Postponed due to the weather. It could have been even worse. Sad. My thoughts are with those affected by this.

We plan to go to the Brussels market with visitors at the weekend. I think this will be on my mind.....

They also found another body at his house - the neighbour's cleaner. I wonder if they will ever know what kicked this off.

Pantofino · 14/12/2011 08:57

Cogito - but surely it is very sad that if we are not affected by such things. Particularly as 3 of the victims were so young.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 14/12/2011 09:29

There was a similar incident involving fewer victims in Florence yesterday. Senegalese traders targeted by a gunman with far-right ambitions. No-one's mentioned that so far but that doesn't seem to bother anyone. A driver was killed on the M5 in a car accident. Hundreds are still dying in Syrian protests. All tragedies for the people directly involved. Are we expected to sob over each and every one of them publicly on a message board or is it understandable that only a few catch our attention enough to warrant comment?

belgo · 14/12/2011 09:32

there's plenty of useful stuff to say apart from 'isn't it awful'. For example how was a known criminal who had already spent so many years in jail for very serious offences, let out in the first place, and then allowed to build up an arsenal of weapons.

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